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Latest Victim of the Tolerance Mafia - Orson Scott Card

Discussion in 'Books & Literature' started by Neon, Feb 14, 2013.

  1. Neon

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    Excuse me for not copy pasting this article but it just makes me too mad. Short version - DC hired Card to write a new Superman thing and I guess that's wrong because he doesn't dance around with rainbow underwear during gay pride week. Seriously - fuck this world. You better be as tolerant as we say or we'll break your kneecaps!

    http://www.wired.com/underwire/2013/02/orson-scott-card-superman/
     
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  3. BIV

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    To be fair, he is an ass on the topic.

    EDIT:
    That's a hoot.
     
  4. Neon

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    He's a religious Mormon. And besides, who gives a flying fuck? Alan Moore supports Occupy Wallstreet. Sting fucking sits around and laughs with mass murderer Bashar Assad. Gay marriage isn't that important.

    Right, because no biblical novellas were written that cast David and Jonathan as gay lovers, right? I guess you can only do that one way.
     
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    BIV I'm Biv Dick Black, the Over Poster.

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    I'm not saying I agree with the outrage, but when you advocate keeping homosexual acts illegal and punishable, there is going to be some blowback.

    I wasn't criticizing that part, I just thought it was funny.
     
  6. Neon

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    That was in 1990! Obama was anti Gay Marriage in 2008. Where's the fucking outrage over that? But I guess only his position can "evolve."

    Let's not pretend that this is anything more than the left trying to once again silence a voice that is more to the right and remove it from the entertainment world.
     
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    You aren't. Others are.
     
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    Yeah, those are two different situations. One person "evolved" and the other is still is an archaic douchebag.

    Your overreaction to this is just as awful as people getting upset about him writing for DC.
     
  9. Neon

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    Oh really? Please find me a statement of his newer than 1990 where he reiterates his position on it.

    I'm not trying to get anyone fired.
     
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    Try reading that article you linked sometime.
     
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    Try reading my post again. All he said in 2004 was that gay marriage wasn't real marriage and was damaging to society. That's a far, FAR cry from thinking that homosexual acts should be illegal. If that's not an evolving position, I don't know what is. QED.
     
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    Speaking of OSC - I read some stuff about the Ender's Game movie that made my blood curdle yesterday. Looks like it will be another WWZ type deal.
     
  13. BIV

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    I suspected it would be.
     
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    I heard him speak about the attempts to make it into a movie years ago at a con, and at the time it sounded like he was adamant about it being adapted properly. I guess he either gave up or was offered enough money to not care.

    EDIT: Here's his quote: "My book was already alive in the mind of every reader. This is writer-director Gavin Hood's movie, so they were his words, and it was his scene."

    That is highly ominous.
     
  15. BIV

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    You have a link handy to what you read, by chance?
     
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    My heart fucking sank when I saw that.

    I am slowly going over that entire list, and finding some interesting movies that are already out (previous efforts by upcoming directors). In general Dark Horizons is a great website for all things related to upcoming movies.
     
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    "It" being anti-gay marriage. And just because he didn't specifically reiterate that homosexual acts should be illegal doesn't mean that he changed his position on it. Until he comes out and says something differently those statements in 1990 still stand.

    You're bending over background to defend this guy's shitty beliefs because what he wrote some good sci-fi.

    Should people be pissed off that he's writing for DC? No. If anything should they should continue to support the writers who promote equality. But no matter what boycott are on about that doesn't mean one can simply white wash Card's shitty views.
     
  20. BIV

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    Damn it Falldog, we had successfully derailed the thread and everything.
     
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    :action-sm
     
  22. Neon

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    Fine then. Is this good enough?

    And his direct quote regarding the matter:

    Once again, much ado about nothing.

    That's a ridiculous statement. I'm bending over backwards to defend this guy's right to hold shitty beliefs without being pounced on, considering he is in a business that has nothing but people with shitty beliefs. But I guess Alan Moore supporting anarchism just isn't that big a deal. And yet Frank Miller opposing Occupy Wall Street is.

    And by the way, I'm not the only one supporting Card.

    Conversely, on the side of "tolerance":

    Despite what you may think, it is actually possible to disagree with someone's opinion and yet be outraged when they are subject to this kind of PC pile-on.

    That's what I've been saying all day. If it bothers you so much, just don't buy the comic. It's the petitions to get him fired, and the retailers refusing to carry the comic that infuriate me.
     
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    I know nothing about this guy, but I how dare he have a different view on a controversial subject!
     
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    The man gets a lifetime pass from me. I would hide bodies for him tonight. Having said that, he is an ass.
     
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    He said at the end of some audio book that the "you know what" will be made clear to the viewers from the start, just not to the kids at Battle School.
     

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