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Chris Pratt: Guardians of the Galaxy 3 will use James Gunn's script
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Mike FloorwalkerFeb. 7, 2019 2:41 EST

Gunn may be gone, but his story will go on.

Series star Chris Pratt has confirmed in an interview with MTV News that the forthcoming Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3 will use the script completed by writer/director James Gunn before his firing from the project. (via Collider)

Gunn helped to make the Guardians franchise one of Marvel Studios' beloved properties by infusing the space opera with his singularly quirky comedic sensibility. Before the first film's 2014 debut, speculation had run rampant among industry observers and fans alike that it would constitute Marvel's first major flop, being based on a virtually unknown team of galactic heroes whose members included a sentient tree who can only speak three words and a gun-toting anthropomorphic raccoon. Instead, the film blew up the box office, won over critics, and made household names out of Gunn and Pratt, to say nothing of Groot and Rocket.

2017's Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 made even more money and was nearly as acclaimed, and Gunn was all set to drop the third and final installment of his trilogy in 2020. But last year, the director found himself in hot water with Disney, Marvel Studios' parent company, when offensive tweets which we had written nearly a decade prior were dragged out into the light. Despite the fact that the Guardians flicks had grossed a combined $1.5 billion worldwide (and that Disney had to have known who they were getting when they hired Gunn, who began his career with the infamous Troma Entertainment), Gunn was promptly canned from Vol. 3, and the film's production was indefinitely delayed.

It became known shortly thereafter that Gunn had completed a script, and speculation ramped up immediately over whether Marvel would shoot it, commission a new script from another writer, or even cancel the film altogether. Pratt put an end to that speculation with his recent comments.

Asked point blank if the production was working from Gunn's screenplay, Pratt answered in the affirmative and also confirmed that he'd read it. "It's off the chain," he said. "It's so good." He went on to elaborate a bit on his feelings toward moving ahead with the project in Gunn's absence. "I love James. I'm loyal to James, and I love him so much. And we're gonna deliver [his] movie… we're gonna give the fans what they deserve. And I think it's in the nature of the Guardians of the Galaxy to come together and get the job done, and that's what we'll do."

Obviously this is great news for fans of the franchise, although Marvel's choice of director is still firmly up in the air. It had been thought — or, rather, fervently hoped — that Thor: Ragnarok's Taiki Waititi may take over, since the tone of his entry into the MCU fell most closely in line with Gunn's work; that notion, however, was recently shot down by Waititi himself, although he remains open to working with Marvel Studios again. Speaking to a panel during a TCA press tour, the director was asked if he had considered coming aboard the project in the wake of Gunn's firing. "I didn't really. For me, those are James Gunn's films," he said. "Going into something like that with his stamp all over his films, would be like going into someone's house and saying, 'Hey, I'm your new dad, and this is how we make peanut butter sandwiches now.' It feels kind of awkward."

As for Gunn, it didn't take him long to land on his feet by jumping ship to rival Warner Brothers and DC. He was hired last year to rework the script for the sequel to 2016's Suicide Squad from the ground up, and it was confirmed late last week that he's in talks to direct that film, as well.

That's gotta sting a bit for Marvel fans, but Pratt's comments serve to soften the blow to a degree. Gunn may not be there to guide the production of Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3, but at least the story that he'd envisioned for the trilogy will be told, and fans won't have to suffer through a third installment from a hired-gun screenwriter charged with replicating his unique voice (which would have been a near-impossible task anyway).

It is still uncertain, however, just how much of the original team will be around for the conclusion to the trilogy. At the close of Avengers: Infinity War, Rocket was the last Guardian standing, with Gamora murdered by Thanos in exchange for the Soul Stone and the rest of the team wiped out in the Decimation (or, if you like, the Snappening). Pratt's Star-Lord is obviously set to return, and Rocket's involvement is also a safe bet (assuming that he survives the events of the upcoming Avengers: Endgame). But even if fan favorites like Groot and Drax fail to make it back from the Great Beyond, we can at least take solace in the fact that the Guardians' story will be wrapped up by the storyteller that made them so special in the first place.

Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3 is expected to hit screens sometime in 2021; we'll keep an eye out for further details.

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Pigdango

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I got beat up pretty good for not liking Sony's Spider-Verse cartoon, so I'm happy to say that I am going to join the rest of you and be ALL IN on Marvel's new lineup of animated TV shows - The Offenders!

Now this is a lot of TV shows to handle, so rather than watching all 4, I'm going to suggest a show for each of you to watch:

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/l...rd-duck-modok-hit-money-tigra-dazzler-1185246

Hit-Monkey tells the tale of a wronged Japanese snow monkey, mentored by the ghost of an American assassin, as he cuts a wide swath through the Tokyo underworld in this darkly cinematic and brutally funny revenge saga. Writers Josh Gordon and Will Speck will executive produce. @Falldog

Tigra & Dazzler Show is a story about two woke superheroes and best friends, Tigra and Dazzler, as they fight for recognition among powered people who make up the eight million stories in Los Angeles. Writers Erica Rivinoja and Chelsea Handler serve as executive producers. @DR. Jimcy M.E.

Howard the Duck is trapped in a world he never made, but America’s favorite fighting fowl hopes to return home with the help of his unstoppable gal pal Beverly before the evil Dr. Bong can turn him the crispiest dish on the menu. Writers Kevin Smith and Dave Willis will also executive produce. @LiddyRules

• M.O.D.O.K. centers around an egomaniacal supervillain with a really big head and a really little body, who struggles to maintain control of his evil organization and his demanding family. Writers Jordan Blum and Patton Oswalt will also executive produce. @Bill Lehecka

The Offenders follows MODOK, Dazzler, Tigra, Hit Monkey and Howard the Duck as they are all forced to team up in order to save the world and certain parts of the universe. I'll take the stick on this one.
 

Pigdango

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The Offenders!

Starring Bill Cosby, Liam Neeson's cosh, Kanye West, and Bobby Moynihan.
Those may very well be the villains that Tigra and Dazzler team up to rid Los Angeles of! They're two woke superheroes - and best friends!
 

DR. Jimcy M.E.

I bring love and cheer.
Things might get a little weird when they try to bring in Patton Oswalt for killing his wife.
His villain name will be "The Grinder" because he grinds up pills for his victims to eat. Every episode someone will mistake his name for the gay dating app just to show they like to keep things light, but not offensive. There's an LGBTBBQ+ person from GLAAD on staff to make sure we don't punch down.
 

LiddyRules

I Think I'll Eat An Apple
If they're woke, I want to go back to sleep!

What's going on? Why was I tagged? Who is this?
 

Pigdango

Silence, you mortal Fuck!
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If they're woke, I want to go back to sleep!

What's going on? Why was I tagged? Who is this?
Your love for Howard the Duck and Kevin Smith makes you the ideal candidate for that leg of the Offenders.
 

LiddyRules

I Think I'll Eat An Apple
Your love for Howard the Duck and Kevin Smith makes you the ideal candidate for that leg of the Offenders.
Kevin Smith wanted to do a Buckaroo Bonzai theory... but the rights fell through!

Also Dave Willis is a big adult swim guy.
 

Pigdango

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So this is interesting...


Also worth noting:

- Mark Ruffalo is signed for 6 movies and will have only appeared in 5: Avengers 1-4 and Thor Ragnarok. His last film can't be a solo Hulk film.

- Marvel gets the rights to Silver Surfer back next week.

- Marvel and Netflix canceled The Faux Defenders and all their related TV shows

- Marvel just published this in December:

 

Pigdango

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Ok, so Marvel has planted flags in the following dates:

5/1/20
11/6/20
2/12/21
5/7/21
11/5/21
2/18/22
5/6/22
7/29/22

Let me try and figure this all out:

5/1/20 - Black Widow
11/6/20 - Eternals (Allegedly starts filming in August)
2/12/21 - Black Panther 2
5/7/21 - Shang Chi
11/5/21 - Doctor Strange 2
2/18/22 - Captain Marvel 2
5/6/22 - Guardians of the Galaxy 3
7/29/22 - ???? I have a hunch this will turn into the third Spider-Man film, and Thor 4 will end up getting released in November of 2022.

I guess we'll find out soon how the X-Men and FF fit into all this, but for now it looks like we'll get a decent sized break from them.

I also feel like what's missing here is any kind of event movie along the lines of Civil War, Infinity War, and Endgame.
 

LiddyRules

I Think I'll Eat An Apple
Ok, so Marvel has planted flags in the following dates:

5/1/20
11/6/20
2/12/21
5/7/21
11/5/21
2/18/22
5/6/22
7/29/22

Let me try and figure this all out:

5/1/20 - Black Widow
11/6/20 - Eternals (Allegedly starts filming in August)
2/12/21 - Black Panther 2
5/7/21 - Shang Chi
11/5/21 - Doctor Strange 2
2/18/22 - Captain Marvel 2
5/6/22 - Guardians of the Galaxy 3
7/29/22 - ???? I have a hunch this will turn into the third Spider-Man film, and Thor 4 will end up getting released in November of 2022.

I guess we'll find out soon how the X-Men and FF fit into all this, but for now it looks like we'll get a decent sized break from them.

I also feel like what's missing here is any kind of event movie along the lines of Civil War, Infinity War, and Endgame.
I agree an event film is missing. But could F4 be an Event Film, or would it only be such to us nerds?

Also, do you think they will try to do an F4 for 2021 for the 60th anniversary?
 

Pigdango

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Donator
I agree an event film is missing. But could F4 be an Event Film, or would it only be such to us nerds?

Also, do you think they will try to do an F4 for 2021 for the 60th anniversary?
The question I have is whether Marvel will increase it's output to more than 3 films. Right now they are capped at that because Kevin Feige is so directly involved with all of them, but these Limited Series on Disney + seem to be an indication that he is willing to relinquish some control to get more product out there. They're also an indication that they need to push some stories to different platforms to make way for new stuff, but Black Widow, the Eternals, and Shang Chi aren't going to get people too excited with the X-Men and FF sitting on the bench. Arguably Vision/Scarlet Witch, Loki, and Bucky/Falcon are more appealing potential films. (I do expect Bucky to show up in Black Widow.)

What I've been wondering is if the Eternals movie is a bit of a smokescreen, and that will actually be a Fantastic Four movie featuring the Eternals. So maybe Shang Chi shifts to November 2020 and FF/Eternals goes to 5/7/21 to coincide with the 60th anniversary as you suggest.

Actually, the first FF comic was published in November of 61. So Doctor Strange May, FF/Eternals November? I could see it.
 

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Radioguy

Having it my way since '98
Shelving X-Men is idiotic. It's a damned shame they couldn't get their ducks in a row to have had the Jackman/Stewart/McKellen continuity merged into Downey/Evans/Hemsworth, but to even shelve the McAvoy timeline? What, reboot a third time? I think they will then burnout the X franchise for even longer if they try. There will be fatigue, and I'm not convinced F4 has survived its own either.

By the way, are they killing Legion as a series intentionally like the Netflix shows? Damned shame either way.
 

crippledalbino

The God of 42nd Street
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Shelving X-Men is idiotic. It's a damned shame they couldn't get their ducks in a row to have had the Jackman/Stewart/McKellen continuity merged into Downey/Evans/Hemsworth, but to even shelve the McAvoy timeline? What, reboot a third time? I think they will then burnout the X franchise for even longer if they try. There will be fatigue, and I'm not convinced F4 has survived its own either.

By the way, are they killing Legion as a series intentionally like the Netflix shows? Damned shame either way.
Not killing it, but I think Legion was always only going to be 3 seasons and done, if I remember correctly.
 

LiddyRules

I Think I'll Eat An Apple
Not killing it, but I think Legion was always only going to be 3 seasons and done, if I remember correctly.
I believe so. Also, David is getting so powerful, it's difficult to see where the show can go longer term. I'm fine with a solid 3.
 
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