Mexico’s Calderon urges Obama, Congress to tighten gun laws

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After listening to Mexico’s president lecture about the need for Washington to ban assault weapons, President Obama said Monday that the U.S. has an obligation to combat gun smuggling that he said is fueled increasingly by drug addicts in rural communities.

Saying drug addiction in the U.S. “traditionally was very urban,” Mr. Obama said at a White House news conference that is changing, owing to the demand for drugs from Mexico’s cartels.

“You go into rural communities, and you’ve got methamphetamine sales that are devastating, you know, young and old alike,” the president said. “And some of that is originally sourced in Mexico. We recognize that we have a responsibility to reduce demand for drugs, that we have a responsibility to make sure that not only guns, but also bulk cash isn’t flowing into Mexico.”

His comments came after Mexican President Felipe Calderon again called on Congress to renew a ban on assault weapons.

“The expiry of the assault-weapons ban in the year 2004 coincided almost exactly with the beginning of the harshest period of violence we’ve ever seen,” Mr. Calderon said. “We have seized over 140,000 weapons in four years — and the vast majority of these weapons were sold in gun shops in the United States. Along the border of the U.S. and Mexico, there are approximately 8,000 weapons shops.”

The Mexican president spoke at length during a Rose Garden news conference about what is an uncomfortable subject for Mr. Obama, whose administration is under investigation by Congress over the notorious “Fast and Furious” program.

Organized by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives and overseen by the Department of Justice, the program sent thousands of weapons to Mexican drug cartels via straw purchasers, or people who legally purchase guns in the United States with the intention of illegally trafficking them somewhere else.

At least 300 people in Mexico have been killed with weapons provided by Fast and Furious, and at least one killing in the U.S., the death of U.S. Border Patrol agent Brian Terry, has been blamed on the program.

Neither Mr. Obama nor Mr. Calderon mentioned Fast and Furious in public Monday. Mr. Obama said stopping the flow of illegal guns into Mexico is a “difficult task.”

“We’ve actually put into practice efforts to stop illegal gun trafficking north to south,” Mr. Obama said. “We will continue to coordinate closely with the Mexican government because we recognize the toll that it’s taken with respect to families and innocent individuals inside of Mexico.”

Mr. Calderon said he appreciated the “administrative effort” being undertaken by the Obama administration to stop gun trafficking.

“We’ve seen a much more active effort in this sense than in any other time in the past,” Mr. Calderon said.

But the Mexican president added that, unless the U.S. enacts a ban on assault weapons and clamps down on gun registration, “We are never going to be able to stop the violence in Mexico or stop a future turning of those guns upon the U.S.”

He also ridiculed the state of Texas for recommending that college students avoid traveling to Mexico for spring break, saying young people were ignoring the warning.

“There are hundreds of thousands of young Texans who go to Mexico, enjoy it, and … we haven’t seen one single incident with U.S. ‘spring-breakers’ in Mexico this past spring,” Mr. Calderon said.

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Motor Head

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Two dozen families run Mexico. As long as the drugs keep flowing, people keep killing each other, people keep crossing the border and sending money back, and working for $1.00 an hour - nothing will change. Fuck Calderon. He's a puppet for the wealthy Mexicans and he is just going along with the half a gringo Obama on fucking with our gun rights.
 

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Anyone who listens to the asshole running that barely-a-country piece of shit area needs a psych evaluation.
 

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The expiry of the assault-weapons ban in the year 2004 coincided almost exactly with the beginning of the harshest period of violence we’ve ever seen
It also coincided exactly with you starting a war against the cartels, fuckface.
 

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I, for one, believe Mexico should loosen their gun laws.

They should embrace the Second Amendment, as we, American's do.
 
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I, for one, believe Mexico should loosen their gun laws.

They should embrace the Second Amendment, as we, American's do.
Jeebus... get a load of their gun laws...

Gun licensing and legislation for Mexican citizens
[edit] Ley Federal de Armas de Fuego y Explosivos (Federal Law of Firearms and Explosives)[3]

Generally, citizens are restricted by law to:

pistolas (handguns) of .380 Auto or .38 Special revolvers or smaller (.357 Magnum, .357 SIG, and 9x19mm Parabellum or larger are restricted)[4][5]
escopetas (shotguns) of 12 gauge or smaller, with barrels longer than 25 inches, and
rifles (rifles) bolt action and semi-auto.

Handguns in calibers bigger than those mentioned above are forbidden from private ownership without a federal license and restrictions similar to the U.S. National Firearms Act (NFA).

Examples of firearms that are legal for citizens to own include .380 ACP pistols, .38 Special revolvers, 12 gauge shotguns (no short-barreled shotguns are allowed) and rifles in any caliber with exceptions such as .30 Carbine, 7mm and 7.62 mm Carbines.

Permits for the transportation and use of such non-military caliber firearms are issued for one year terms by SEDENA (Secretaría de la Defensa Nacional) and may be applied for up to 10 firearms, total, for each designated and planned use that is legally authorized. These uses may include hunting or shooting at a club or national competition. Permits are very easy to obtain, but may be only obtained by citizens belonging to a shooting club.


There is only one legally authorized retail outlet for firearms in Mexico, which is located in Mexico City: UCAM (Unidad de Comercialización de Armamento y Municiones), run by the Army. It is owned by, and is part of, the government.[5] Although there is no legal limit on how many firearms an individual can own, UCAM will sell private buyers a single hand gun for home protection, and up to nine sporting rifles more for shooting and/or hunting. Once any individual has purchased ten firearms from UCAM, he cannot get a permit to buy any more. However, private party sales are legal and are largely uncontrolled, and wealthy gun-collecting citizens thus can legally buy more firearms from other private owners. The requirement that such firearms be federally registered is widely ignored and unenforced.

Collector permits, somewhat analogous to the FFL Category 03 Curio & Relic permits issued in the United States, are easy to obtain from the Mexican Government and allow the ownership of a wide range of firearms, even including military firearms. For those holding collector permits, regular visits by the local military authority to inspect the storage location to make sure it has the necessary security measures to avoid the guns' being stolen are a recurring fact of life.

CCW licenses are issued but are hard to obtain for anyone not wealthy and without political connections. In the event that an application is denied, the denial may theoretically be appealed at a District Court, but this never occurs in practice. Prior to 2002, CCW licenses could be obtained authorizing military caliber pistols. However, these CCW licenses were all cancelled, and re-issued to authorize only up to .380 ACP caliber pistolas. In the face of rising crime, private citizens are arming themselves despite the difficulty of obtaining a proper permit.[6]

Transportation licenses are required for transporting guns. Transportation must be with the firearm unloaded and in a case. There are no public shooting ranges such as in the U.S. and other countries.
WTF you cannot get a 10 gauge for I dunno goose hunting.
 

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Good thing the DoJ exports whatever they want to Cartels. No questions asked.
 

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this is what the orginal plan of Fast And Furious was supposed to result in, minus all that messy "someone getting killed by our own stolen weapons and the AG getting taken before a congressional hearing" business
 

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If Mexico think it's such a problem, then it's their job to do something about it. They won't, though, because it means more illegals going to the US and funneling money back to Mexico, and they get to keep blaming the US for their problems.
 

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How about you legalize guns in your shit country and not restrict our rights. Fucking asshole. Your shitty corrupt government is the reason why the cartels were able to rise to power, how about you deal with it.
 

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Gun control fails in our country

Demand that U.S. does the same thing.
 

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Gun control fails in our country

Demand that U.S. does the same thing.
:icon_lol:

Federal government co-conspires to smuggle guns into mexico...

Makes law-abiding citizens report two or more guns purchased in a month.
 

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Its nice how they conveniently left out the fact that its the US government that is sending guns into Mexico and the drug cartels are mostly ex south American military or ex cops.

This is nothing new, Calderon gave a speech a few years ago about banning guns and the traitors in government stood up and applauded him. Can you imagine what would have happened in the early 1800s if a foreign leader came into the country and publicly said the American people need to be disarmed?

[video=youtube;EgrgNNHsE2M]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgrgNNHsE2M[/video]
 

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Gun control fails in our country

Demand that U.S. does the same thing.
The law abiding are disarmed and the Mexican government is very corrupt, it doesn't fail at all. Banning guns does exactly what they want it to do.