Michigan Lawmakers Mull Fetus Tax Credit

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Michigan Lawmakers Mull Fetus Tax Credit
November 21, 2012 6:18 AM
Reporting Tim Skubick

LANSING (WWJ) - Should Michigan residents get a tax credit for a child before it is born?

State lawmakers discussed legislation at a House Tax Policy Committee on Tuesday that would allow a fetus of at least 12-weeks to qualify as a dependent for state income tax purposes.

Current state law allows parents to claim a $3,700 tax deduction for a dependent. WWJ Lansing Bureau Chief Tim Skubick says House Bills 5684 and 5685 will extend that tax exemption to expecting parents.

Dan Jarvis, for the Michigan Family Forum, said Michigan would be the first in the nation to implement such a policy.

“It changes the definition of what a dependent is, and again, if there are expenses associated with children who are born, clearly there are expenses associated with the pregnancy as well. So, this is to help offset those expenses,” Jarvis said.

Opponents of the legislation, like the Michigan National Organization for Women, say the bill has a hidden agenda.

“These bills would be a first step toward establishing fetal personhood and banning abortion,” said Mary Pollock, with Michigan NOW. “They want fetal personhood and they want to put a fetus’ rights above a mother’s rights.”

Supporters like Jarvis, however, say that’s not the case.

“There is no abortion agenda here, really. It’s about tax credits for young families who are struggling to make ends meet,” he said.

The fetus tax credit, which could cost the state $5 million to $10 million a year in revenue, is currently pending in a house committee.

http://detroit.cbslocal.com/2012/11/21/michigan-lawmakers-mull-fetus-tax-credit/
I'm sure this'll go over well in Detroit...
 

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Yay another thread for Don to make an ass of himself!
 

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My daughter's due date was originally December 28th but she wasn't born until January. I remember being kinda pissed at the time that I missed out on the tax credit.
 

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Do the gibsmedats even need tax credits and deductions? Make sure you double their food stamps with every fetus they carry, now we are talking!

But seriously how can they enforce/control this? Don't thy need a name and SSN to properly credit child benefits?
 

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More tax credits is bigger returns for people who don't even pay tax. It's just another handout.
 

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Supporters like Jarvis, however, say that’s not the case.

“There is no abortion agenda here, really. It’s about tax credits for young families who are struggling to make ends meet,” he said.
Liars for Jesus.
 

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It’s about tax credits for young families who are struggling to make ends meet,” he said.
Because encouraging struggling families to have more kids is good public policy......
 

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Handing money out is good public policy if your only objective is to get reelected.
Republicans handing out money as a backdoor attempt to restrict or ban abortions is the antithesis of the "small-government" attitude they supposedly represent.
 

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Republicans handing out money as a backdoor attempt to restrict or ban abortions is the antithesis of the "small-government" attitude they supposedly represent.
Yep, that's exactly what it is. Start defining the tumor as a dependent, and it gives anti-abortionists more leverage.
 

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Oh, stop it. We're trying to have a serious discussion here.

Republicans handing out money as a backdoor attempt to restrict or ban abortions is the antithesis of the "small-government" attitude they supposedly represent.
This isn't going to have any effect on the abortion rate or abortion laws. It's a handout to people who don't pay taxes in the first place.
 

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This isn't going to have any effect on the abortion rate or abortion laws. It's a handout to people who don't pay taxes in the first place.
Then why are they making a big deal about benefitting the unborn? There's a reason they are framing this proposal to benefit fetii at 12 weeks old.
 

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It's funny how they are merely "lawmakers" in OAPC's story

Let's try this one

Republican lawmakers in Michigan, a state which eliminated tax credits for children last year, have proposed a tax credit for unborn foetuses of 12 weeks gestation

Another gem from this article

this would create a special new tax credit for unborn fetuses, after Lansing Republicans eliminated the tax credit for living, breathing children last year.
Last year, the state legislature and governor eliminated a child tax credit deduction which went to 2.35 million children in the state, worth $57m, according to the Michigan League for Public Policy.

Yup zero agenda to be found here. :rolleyes:
 

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Then why are they making a big deal about benefitting the unborn? There's a reason they are framing this proposal to benefit fetii at 12 weeks old.
To pretend they're pandering to pro lifers. The people who actually pay into the tax system and would appreciate the tax cut aren't having abortions.
 

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To pretend they're pandering to pro lifers. The people who actually pay into the tax system and would appreciate the tax cut aren't having abortions.
There's no "pretend" about it. We just spent 6 months hearing about how Republicans hate gibsmedats and the whole "47%" mentality. The only logical reason that a Republican would be pushing this kind of benefit would be if it furthers their agenda.
 

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There's no "pretend" about it. We just spent 6 months hearing about how Republicans hate gibsmedats and the whole "47%" mentality. The only logical reason that a Republican would be pushing this kind of benefit would be if it furthers their agenda.
Except for the fact that there's a sizable minority int he Republican party, especially in states like Michigan, that DON'T hate the parasite class. You have your sneaky agenda backwards here. This is a handout disguised as pro life pandering, not pro life pandering disguised as a tax cut.

There's absolutely NOTHING that lawmakers can do to change abortion law. Stop acting like giving out money is somehow going to magically put 3 pro life judges on the Supreme Court.
 

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Except for the fact that there's a sizable minority int he Republican party, especially in states like Michigan, that DON'T hate the parasite class. You have your sneaky agenda backwards here. This is a handout disguised as pro life pandering, not pro life pandering disguised as a tax cut.

There's absolutely NOTHING that lawmakers can do to change abortion law. Stop acting like giving out money is somehow going to magically put 3 pro life judges on the Supreme Court.
That would be believable if the same group that's proposing this bill didn't eliminate a bunch of child tax credits last year. Tell me how those are completely unrelated.
 

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Actually, that's the proper way to lead the story. I'm shocked CBS did things the right way for once.
Out of all the major media network media outlets, I think CBS is probably the fairest of them all. They were pretty relentless in their F&F coverage. That's why I was disappointed when they sat on the Obama Libya thing like they did.
 

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That would be believable if the same group that's proposing this bill didn't eliminate a bunch of child tax credits last year. Tell me how those are completely unrelated.
Like I said, they're pretend pandering. They know this bill means absolutely nothing, but it sure looks good to the flock.