Mitt Romney promises porn crackdown if elected

Lord Zero

Registered User
#76
I'm not saying Romney will or any previous Republican administration ever did get rid of a major entitlement program. I'm trying to be real here...sadly, a guy like Johnson has virtually no shot in 2012 as a third party candidate. That leaves two choices...Romney or Obama. Obama can't run again after this...he won't have to worry about poll numbers and the media's got his back when he pulls bullshit stunts like buying Obamacare votes in order to ram his shit through. I consider him a far lefty progressive deep down and the far lefties are who he will go to bat for. I don't think this guy gives a shit about his legacy and standing with the rest of America...as long as he could enact change and be in the good graces of "his" people. I don't mean black people, I mean the far left...and well, black people. Romney, on the other hand, isn't as far to the left, has executive experience, and will need to poll watch and keep moderates and centrists happy.

This is a critical point in our history. With what's going on in Europe and the amount of debt this country is lugging around...we're setting ourselves up for a catastrophe. I want to avoid that at all costs...and I think something like that will more likely happen with an Obama 2nd term rather than a Romney 1st term. I'd love to see Johnson in there and if there was a way to give him a real shot at winning...I'd back him easily. But with the way this bullshit political landscape is in this country, it's not going to happen in 2012. Middle America sees a two party system and a third party has no shot. I'd love for guys like Johnson to hijack one of the two parties (more likely would be the GOP, IMO) and reshape it.

I'm conservative...that's about as far as I go nowadays...I hate this two party bullshit. In my first 2 general elections (2000, 2004), I voted all GOP...I didn't really know any better. I did a little more research in 2008 though and stopped voting that way. That's not to say I voted for any Democrats...since I was basically turned off by all of the state and local Democratic candidates who would not offer real solutions, but would just resort to spewing all of the fantastical Hope and Change talking points.

Of course he is. But again...I'm voting for the guy that stands the best chance at removing Obama from office. Johnson sadly, is not that guy. Romney is...and IMO, he is not going to be as incompetent and bad as Obama. We don't even know his running mate yet. I'd love to see Johnson gain steam over the next few years...though I think accomplishing that as a 3rd party guy is not going to happen.

Well...why would I think Romney would be able to replace Obamacare with Romneycare as POTUS? You think he's going to be able to repeal Obamacare and just change the name to Romneycare? I don't think it's going to happen...but I do want Obamacare repealed regardless. Romney will do that...Johnson will also do that...however, Romney stands the best chance at winning. And with regard to the assault weapons ban...do you think Romney will be able to re-establish the federal ban? I don't think he can do it, and if he does, it'll be a one-term proposition . And the gay thing...blech, doesn't bother me , as long as he's not locking you guys up and sending you to heterosexual re-education camps.

I'll easily take my chances with all of that. And even a mediocre Romney Presidency, IMO, would be a significant change from Obama. It'll be back to the drawing board for guys like Johnson. I'd love to see him as a legitimate threat in the future. But in the meantime...and I'm serious about this...there might not be much of a country left for Johnson after an Obama 2nd term. I think there will be with Romney, hence, why I'm voting for him. Plus, IMO, I just don't think he's going to be that terrible, especially before we truly know how his administration would fill out.
I can prove that that is the wrong way to look at it by simply pointing out where we are right now as a country. Our current situation is the result of sticking with the lesser of two evils style of voting. Picking the lesser of two evils didn't stop any of this shit from happening. It may have delayed it by 4-8 years, but it still happened eventually. We NEED to break that pattern. If we don't do it now when our two main choices are this bad, we never will and the problem will persist. That's the truth of the matter.

EDIT: Why, oh why does the font and sometimes color get all screwed up when I copy and paste quotes and some newspaper articles? It never did that before the upgrade.
It's so goddamn buggy, isn't it? The color function is the fucking worst.
 

Begbie

Wackbag Generalissimo
#78
I can prove that all of that is the wrong way to look at it by simply pointing out where we are right now as a country. Our current situation is the result of sticking with the lesser of two evils style of voting. Picking the lesser of two evils didn't stop any of this shit from happening. It may have delayed it by 4-8 years, but it still happened eventually. We NEED to break that pattern. If we don't do it now when our two main choices are this bad, we never will and the problem will continue to persist. That's the truth of the matter.
I'm all for breaking that pattern...I'd love to see it happen. In fact, it needs to happen. Something. It's just not going to happen in what....3 months til November? Someone's going to win and I'm willing to say it's not going to be the third party guy. You guys vote Johnson to hopefully stir up some attention towards him long term...I'll vote Romney to get the lesser of the two evils in office. I just hope Josh and OAPC are right in that it doesn't translate into an Obama win. For all I know, Obama can come out and lead a respectable 2nd term, like Clinton (minus the Lewinsky thing and lying under oath thing). Problem is, I (somewhat) trust Clinton. I don't trust Obama.


AtlantaHardcore said:
Is so goddamn buggy, isn't it? The color function is the fucking worst.
I've always been on the default blue on white style...so I can see everything, it's just when you're using Wackbag black styles. I'm always finding myself needing to go back and edit my posts and getting rid of those font and color tags...frustrating.

oandapartycock said:
Why thank you OAPC. :action-sm
 

Lord Zero

Registered User
#79
I'm all for breaking that pattern...I'd love to see it happen. In fact, it needs to happen. Something. It's just not going to happen in what....3 months til November? Someone's going to win and I'm willing to say it's not going to be the third party guy. You guys vote Johnson to hopefully stir up some attention towards him long term...I'll vote Romney to get the lesser of the two evils in office. I just hope Josh and OAPC are right in that it doesn't translate into an Obama win. For all I know, Obama can come out and lead a respectable 2nd term, like Clinton (minus the Lewinsky thing and lying under oath thing). Problem is, I (somewhat) trust Clinton. I don't trust Obama.
Let me clarify my belief as to why the shift has to happen now. It probably won't change your mind, but you'll at least see where I'm coming from and how there's a strongly practical element to it.

You would rather vote for the lesser of two evils than vote for the better but less electable candidate because another 4 years of the greater of two evils could permanently cripple the country; this election has the highest stakes of any previous election in modern American history. My ultimate problem with that is this: Since the lesser of two evils is still evil, the country will still see economic declines and erosion of civil liberties. Those declines would add on to our existing woes; we would see no real solutions to our problems. Since this election is so important that we can't risk voting for a third party candidate, all the additional degeneration under Romney would make the next election even more important; also too important to risk voting for a third party candidate. Basically, we would continue putting off making long-term improvements for the sake of short-term pragmatic compromises.
 

Lord Zero

Registered User
#80
Bump

Let me clarify my belief as to why the shift has to happen now. It probably won't change your mind, but you'll at least see where I'm coming from and how there's a strongly practical element to it.

You would rather vote for the lesser of two evils than vote for the better but less electable candidate because another 4 years of the greater of two evils could permanently cripple the country; this election has the highest stakes of any previous election in modern American history. My ultimate problem with that is this: Since the lesser of two evils is still evil, the country will still see economic declines and erosion of civil liberties. Those declines would add on to our existing woes; we would see no real solutions to our problems. Since this election is so important that we can't risk voting for a third party candidate, all the additional degeneration under Romney would make the next election even more important; also too important to risk voting for a third party candidate. Basically, we would continue putting off making long-term improvements for the sake of short-term pragmatic compromises.
 

Party Rooster

Unleash The Beast
#81
Troy Quan approved!

Porn star Jenna Jameson endorses Mitt Romney

11:04 AM, Aug 3, 2012 | 11 comments

SAN FRANCISCO (CBS SF) - Porn star Jenna Jameson chose a familiar stage to make her endorsement for the 2012 presidential election Thursday night. At a San Francisco strip club, the former adult actress and stage performer said she was ready for a Romney presidency.

"I'm very looking forward to a Republican being back in office," Jameson said while sipping champagne in a VIP room at Gold Club in the city's South of Market neighborhood. "When you're rich, you want a Republican in office."

Jameson made the comments exclusively to a CBS SF staffer who was attending an event marking the 8th anniversary of the gentlemen's club.

The Mitt Romney endorsement appears to be a departure from previous political leanings displayed by Jameson. The 38-year-old entrepreneur has previously appeared in People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals campaigns, and was a Hillary Clinton supporter in 2008, according to published reports.

http://www.wtsp.com/news/national/article/266612/81/Porn-star-endorses-Romney
 

Begbie

Wackbag Generalissimo
#82
Nice bump. :rolleyes: And you're right...I'm still not changing my mind. The shift cannot happen now, 3 months before the election. As it stands today, guys like Johnson have a near zero shot at winning the Presidential election in 3 months. It absolutely sucks, and that has to change...but it's not going to happen within three months. We need to prepare for 2nd term Obama or President-Elect Romney. Out of those two choices...it should be simple. Obama who I consider, deep down, a very far left progressive and who could easily spend the next four years going to bat for his far lefties...the only people that truly matter to him. Or Romney...who I consider, deep down, a liberal who could easily spend the next four years trying to keep his poll numbers high by going right down the center and trying to keep as many people happy as possible. Or vote 3rd party...which, as it stands 3 months out, will only be a throw away vote and risk launching the very worst of the two back into office.

I'm not risking it. I'd easily consider it if the Democrat running wasn't as dopey and reckless as Obama. Only then, could I truly consider "making a statement" and "standing for my principles" by voting third party. But not this year with what's at stake.
 

Owenay

Those who fail to learn from history are doomed...
#83
She's been having a very entertaining back and forth with the ignorant hypocrites on Twitter too. Gotta love 'your mom' jokes. :haha7:


Nice bump. :rolleyes: And you're right...I'm still not changing my mind. The shift cannot happen now, 3 months before the election. As it stands today, guys like Johnson have a near zero shot at winning the Presidential election in 3 months. It absolutely sucks, and that has to change...but it's not going to happen within three months. We need to prepare for 2nd term Obama or President-Elect Romney. Out of those two choices...it should be simple. Obama who I consider, deep down, a very far left progressive and who could easily spend the next four years going to bat for his far lefties...the only people that truly matter to him. Or Romney...who I consider, deep down, a liberal who could easily spend the next four years trying to keep his poll numbers high by going right down the center and trying to keep as many people happy as possible. Or vote 3rd party...which, as it stands 3 months out, will only be a throw away vote and risk launching the very worst of the two back into office.

I'm not risking it. I'd easily consider it if the Democrat running wasn't as dopey and reckless as Obama. Only then, could I truly consider "making a statement" and "standing for my principles" by voting third party. But not this year with what's at stake.
A-fuckin-men. The only chance someone other than Obama or Romney have of being our next president would have to be some epic scandal like we've NEVER seen before that outright disqualifies one of them OR assassination. Anyone who actually believes Johnson or Paul (or anyone else) can actually get elected this year is even farther detached from reality than people like Kirk.
 

Party Rooster

Unleash The Beast
#84
She's been having a very entertaining back and forth with the ignorant hypocrites on Twitter too. Gotta love 'your mom' jokes. :haha7:
This one's kinda clever though...

Laura Chandler@TheWonderVenus
@jennajameson @shanethvarosa OMG. Talking about how a has been whore and her choice of candidate have made their wealth by fucking people.
On a side note, what's with the obsession of pointing out the lib trolls on social media lately by conservatives? Do they really think there aren't conservative trolls flaming libs?
 

Lord Zero

Registered User
#85
Obama who I consider, deep down, a very far left progressive and who could easily spend the next four years going to bat for his far lefties...the only people that truly matter to him. Or Romney...who I consider, deep down, a liberal
Deep down? It's not obvious in a single glance?
 

Lord Zero

Registered User
#86
Anyone who actually believes Johnson or Paul (or anyone else) can actually get elected this year is even farther detached from reality than people like Kirk.
We're not detached from reality; we're looking further down the road than just this election.
 

Lord Zero

Registered User
#88
Which is why Gary Johnson belongs in the Republican Party.
Again, he doesn't belong in the Republican Party because he's not a republican. The Republican Party does not reflect his values and beliefs. Besides, you're grossly underestimating how much of a stink there is on that party these days.
 
#89
Again, he doesn't belong in the Republican Party because he's not a republican. The Republican Party does not reflect his values and beliefs. Besides, you're grossly underestimating how much of a stink there is on that party these days.
The Libertarian Party is a joke.
 

Lord Zero

Registered User
#90
The Libertarian Party is a joke.
Not nearly as big a joke as the Republican and Democratic Parties. Take a look at our last four Presidential elections (this one included) if you want proof of that. Bush/Gore, Kerry/Bush, McCain/Obama, and Romney/Obama. Both parties are dead.
 

Josh_R

Registered User
#91
Which is why Gary Johnson belongs in the Republican Party.
The day the Republican party wants to legalize weed and protect gay marriage as a civil right, Gary Johnson will belong in their party.
 
#92
The day the Republican party wants to legalize weed and protect gay marriage as a civil right, Gary Johnson will belong in their party.
That will never happen if the politicians who stand for those issues take their ball and leave.
 

Josh_R

Registered User
#93
That will never happen if the politicians who stand for those issues take their ball and leave.
You mean like Ron Paul did? He's been preaching this shit for like 40 years and no one cared. The Republican party has gotten more ridiculous with their social shit, rather than more tolerant. They HAVE to pander to the midwest rubes, anyone that doesn't has no chance of getting elected, thus they have to "take their ball and leave". That really is a terrible analogy, since it would imply that the libertarian leaning Republicans have the ball.
 

Lord Zero

Registered User
#94
You mean like Ron Paul did? He's been preaching this shit for like 40 years and no one cared.
Exactly. Anyone who doesn't toe the RNC's line will never get a Presidential nomination because no one in the RNC (or DNC) is actually looking for solutions. The two parties just want to defeat each other by any means necessary. It's a game to an extent. The Presidential elections are way more important than the actual Presidential terms.
 
#95
You mean like Ron Paul did? He's been preaching this shit for like 40 years and no one cared. The Republican party has gotten more ridiculous with their social shit, rather than more tolerant. They HAVE to pander to the midwest rubes, anyone that doesn't has no chance of getting elected, thus they have to "take their ball and leave". That really is a terrible analogy, since it would imply that the libertarian leaning Republicans have the ball.
That's Libertarian Party propaganda talking. Just look as New Hampshire. Libertarians run as both Republicans and democrats there and win offices. This two party system works like it does because we're not a proportional representation country. The only chance the Libertarian Party has for any success is to supplant one of the major parties, and that's never going to happen.
 

Josh_R

Registered User
#96
That's Libertarian Party propaganda talking. Just look as New Hampshire. Libertarians run as both Republicans and democrats there and win offices. This two party system works like it does because we're not a proportional representation country. The only chance the Libertarian Party has for any success is to supplant one of the major parties, and that's never going to happen.
You realize there is a concerted effort to turn NH into a libertarian state? Anything that happens there is not a very good representation of what will happen around the country. Can you imagine a Republican in Tennessee running on a platform of gay marriage, loosening immigration, and drug legalization? They don't have a chance since the voters have a preconceived notion of what a "Republican" is.
http://freestateproject.org/
 
#97
You realize there is a concerted effort to turn NH into a libertarian state? Anything that happens there is not a very good representation of what will happen around the country. Can you imagine a Republican in Tennessee running on a platform of gay marriage, loosening immigration, and drug legalization? They don't have a chance since the voters have a preconceived notion of what a "Republican" is.
http://freestateproject.org/
Yes. I know all about the Free State Project. I ran the board for Free Talk Live when my station aired it during the times we didn't have a live host for that slot.
 

CousinDave

Registered User
#98
Look all of you who are supporting Gary Johnson in this election, I understand where you're coming from, I voted for Bob Barr for POTUS in 2008, I was registered as a Libertarian in Pennsylvania.

I get it that you don't see much difference between Mitt and Barry, but I'll give you one reason to vote for Mitt Romney: Eric Holder
 
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