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On another forum I saw a link to this story from some religious website. They carefully changed all the she to he so it can be confusing to read, but it appears some guy kicks ass in the girl's division.

Mixed Martial Arts fighter admits 'she' was born male after speedy knockout

by Kirsten Andersen
  • Fri Mar 08, 2013 19:41 EST


Fallon Fox fells another female.
FLORIDA, March 8, 2013, (LifeSiteNews.com) – The Florida State Boxing Commission is considering revoking Mixed Martial Arts (MMA) fighter Fallon Fox’s license after Fox confessed he was born a man.
Fox, 37, had been competing as a woman in the featherweight division and had not previously disclosed his birth sex. He was forced to reveal his secret to Sports Illustrated magazine after a journalist with knowledge of his background questioned him after winning a quarterfinal fight against Ericka Newsome. The fight lasted only 39 seconds and ended when Fox delivered a blow to Newsome’s head with his knee, knocking her out.
Fox took hormones and had surgery to change his appearance to that of a woman in 2006. On his March 1 application for a Florida fighting license, he marked himself “female” and did not disclose his masculine origins. He also claimed to have a California fighting license. Typically, having a license in another state makes the application process faster and smoother. However, California officials said they only received an application from Fox, and it has not yet been approved.
Fox was scheduled to fight a woman April 20, but that fight has been postponed pending the outcome of the investigation into his licensing.
Fox’s agent Brett Atchley said his client is upset by media coverage painting him as having calculated his sex change to achieve success in sports. “The bone of contention for Fallon seems to be people characterizing [him] as dishonest and manipulating, that [he] somehow manifested [his] destiny by saying, ‘I’m going to have this operation and then I’m going to be a fighter and world champion,’” Atchley said.
Fox is also reportedly upset by the backlash from his would-be competitors in the ring, all of whom are women weighing between 135 and 145 pounds.
Championship Fighting Alliance CEO Jorge De La Noval said women fighters have been calling him to complain. “It has gotten to the point where some are saying, ‘I’m fighting her in the next round. Am I fighting a male or female? What’s the deal?’” he said. “I told them the same thing. I'm not pulling [him] from the tournament. [He]’s a female fighter and if [he] goes all the way, [he]’s going to be my champion and I’m very proud of [him]. It’s just a matter of time before we see how this plays out.”
De La Noval was previously unaware that Fox was born a man, but he said he hopes the FSBC allows him to return to the ring as a woman.
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“[He] has a license by the Florida State Boxing Commission as a female; [he]’s going to stay in the tournament,” De La Noval told ESPN.com. “[He]’s a female fighter to us. And we’re standing behind [him] when it comes to that. “We're not going to kick [him] out of the tournament. [He]’s going to continue fighting for CFA.”
Added De La Noval, “It wouldn't be fair to cut [him] out of the tournament now. There’s a lot of money on the line for [him] that [he] needs. [He]’s a great fighter.”
De La Noval said he couldn’t imagine the FSBC revoking Fox’s license.
“As a promoter, obviously everyone who comes into my office, what I see is a fighter,” De La Noval said. “I don't ask anyone what their sexual preference is. What they do with their personal life is not my business. [He’]s a sweet girl...And where we stand as a company is that [he]’s a female. [He] has an Illinois driver's license [as a female]. [He]’s a female and [he]’s definitely a fighter. I just don’t see how anybody can revoke [his] license.”
FSBC officials are holding rules workshops next week, at which they plan to address the issue of transgender fighters.
“The commission is in the process of updating its rules for professional MMA events, and this particular topic will be part of our workshops on March 15,” FSBC spokeswoman Sandi Copes Poreda said. “We'll have additional information about the rules workshops after it’s completed.”
The issue of transgender athletes has been receiving increasing attention as gender reassignment surgery becomes more common. In California, controversy arose when a 6’8”, 50 year-old man played college basketball on a women’s team shortly after his sex-change surgery.
South African Olympic runner Caster Semenya received international attention when the International Association of Athletics Federation had her submit to gender testing, suspecting she may have been lying about her sex. The results of that testing were never released, but the IAAF cleared her to return to competition in 2010.
http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/mi...its-39she39-was-born-male-after-speedy-knocko
 

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UCJOE

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I am surprised that some people on MMA boards think this is fair
I think of it this way
If a chick got into a fair fight with my sister & won, I would not retaliate
If a TG beat up my sister, I would kick their fucking ass
 

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Its just a dude with out a dick and balls. Still a dude. I would try to kick his ass as best I could.
 

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Some dumb bitch feminist started attacking Rogan over this on Twitter today. Of course she started getting smashed by his fans, which she loved. Made her look like the victim, and of course I called her out on that. I repeatedly asked her why she supports men beating up women if she's a feminist. Of course she refused to answer, preferring to focus on being a victim of hate tweets.
 

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Some dumb bitch feminist started attacking Rogan over this on Twitter today. Of course she started getting smashed by his fans, which she loved. Made her look like the victim, and of course I called her out on that. I repeatedly asked her why she supports men beating up women if she's a feminist. Of course she refused to answer, preferring to focus on being a victim of hate tweets.
Wow... Just went to his twitter page to see who you were talking about. She really is annoying. One of those look for something to be offended about types. That shit is fucking annoying.
 

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She finally answered me.

@TheDonCarpenter since you've been the least insulting, ill say that HRT changes physiology, and either way, rogan was being transphobic.
@TheDonCarpenter calling a transperson a "man without a d*ck" is transphobic.

Her bullshit argument over HRT aside, her real issue is that Rogan used hurtful words.

And my response.

@aemccarthy Genetically a trans woman is still a man. Male fighters have specific advantages. This really isn't anything-phobic. Lighten up.
I'm a very VERY casual MMA fan, and even I know that men have longer arms, broader shoulders, larger muscles, etc. that help a lot, especially in BJJ and grappling.
 

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Some dumb bitch feminist started attacking Rogan over this on Twitter today. Of course she started getting smashed by his fans, which she loved. Made her look like the victim, and of course I called her out on that. I repeatedly asked her why she supports men beating up women if she's a feminist. Of course she refused to answer, preferring to focus on being a victim of hate tweets.
I recently got called a bigot because I said that I would outright reject a post op transsexual as a potential mate. Louis CK put it best when he was speaking about LA and he said that people were just too fucking free there. Same applies for certain people throughout this country.
 

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So, I decided to be nice and thank her for answering.


@aemccarthy Thanks for answering the question, by the way. Have a good night and stop being so uptight. Not everything has to be offensive.
And she won't let up on the hurtful words.

@TheDonCarpenter his words were offensive. Period.


@aemccarthy We'll have to agree to disagree. I feel bad that you constantly have to look for things that offend you. It must be stressful.


I'm going to guess the "writing" she does is all about how she's a victim. Hell, we should just move this to the "women" thread.
 

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I know I'm preaching to the choir, here, but Rogan is obviously right.

Fallon Fox spent ~30 years as a man. An athletic man, not just some schlub who sat on his ass all day. Yes, you lose body muscle and bone density when you start those estrogen treatments, but you don't lose them to the point that you're equal to a woman. You're equal to a woman on 'roids. And that's not a level playing field for the other women in the sports.

I have a lot of sympathy for transgendered people. I think they go through hell, all kinds of depression and unhappiness, and I genuinely feel sorry for them. I don't think for a second that Fallon Fox chose this course to get a let up on the competition, to win championships. Cutting your dick and balls off is a hell of a price to pay for championships. If you really want it that badly, go for it. But this isn't competitively fair to the women who were born women. It is not a level playing field for born-female athletes.