Nazi Germany Part Deux

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[SIZE=+2]Iran Curtails Freedom In Throwback to 1979[/SIZE]
Repression Seen as Cultural Revolution
[SIZE=-1]By Robin Wright
Washington Post Staff Writer
Saturday, June 16, 2007; A10
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Iran is in the midst of a sweeping crackdown that both Iranians and U.S. analysts compare to a cultural revolution in its attempt to steer the oil-rich theocracy back to the rigid strictures of the 1979 revolution.
The recent detentions of Iranian American dual nationals are only a small part of a campaign that includes arrests, interrogations, intimidation and harassment of thousands of Iranians as well as purges of academics and new censorship codes for the media. Hundreds of Iranians have been detained and interrogated, including a top Iranian official, according to Iranian and international human rights groups.
The move has quashed or forced underground many independent civil society groups, silenced protests over issues including women's rights and pay rates, quelled academic debate, and sparked society-wide fear about several aspects of daily life, the sources said.
Few feel safe, especially after the April arrest of Hossein Mousavian, a former top nuclear negotiator and ambassador to Germany, on charges of espionage and endangering national security.
The widespread purges and arrests are expected to have an impact on parliamentary elections next year and the presidential contest in 2009, either discouraging or preventing reformers from running against the current crop of hard-liners who dominate all branches of government, Iranian and U.S. analysts say. The elections are one of several motives behind the crackdowns, they add.
Public signs of discontent -- such as students booing President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad on a campus last December, teacher protests in March over low wages and workers demonstrating on May Day -- are also behind the detentions, according to Iranian sources.
"The current crackdown is a way to instill fear in the population in order to discourage them from future political agitation as the economic situation begins to deteriorate," said Karim Sadjadpour of the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace. "You're going to think twice about taking to the streets to protest the hike in gasoline prices if you know the regime's paramilitary forces have been on a head-cracking spree the last few weeks."
Despite promises to use Iran's oil revenue to aid the poor, Ahmadinejad's economic policies have backfired, triggering 20 percent inflation over the past year, increased poverty and a 25 percent rise in the price of gas last month. More than 50 of the country's leading economists wrote an open letter to Ahmadinejad this week warning that he is ignoring basic economics and endangering the country's future.
Universities have been particularly hard hit by faculty purges and student detentions since late last year, according to Iranian analysts and international human rights groups. Professors still on campus have been warned by Iran's intelligence ministry about developing relationships with their foreign counterparts, who may try to recruit them as spies.
"Ahmadinejad has repeatedly stated his goal of purging Iranian society of secular thought. This is taking shape as a cultural revolution, particularly on university campuses, where persecution and prosecution of students and faculty are intensifying with each passing day," said Hadi Ghaemi, the Iran analyst for Human Rights Watch.
In recent weeks, the government has also tried to dissolve student unions and replace them with allies from the Basij -- a young, volunteer paramilitary body, human rights groups say. Between April 30 and June 6, eight student leaders involved in the elections at Amirkabir University -- where Ahmadinejad was reportedly jeered as students set his pictures on fire -- have been jailed in Evin Prison.
The campus purges have been mirrored in virtually all government-funded organizations, as hard-liners have been slotted into positions in the civil service, security apparatus, financial institutions and public services in the two years since Ahmadinejad took office, Iranian analysts said.
Leaders of groups defying the new strictures -- such as bus drivers trying to unionize, teachers protesting pay rates below the poverty line and women's activists trying to gather 1 million signatures to demand reform of Iran's family law -- have been arrested, human rights groups said. Others have been summoned for interrogations by the intelligence ministry.
Iran's Supreme National Security Council last month also laid out new censorship rules in a letter to news outlets, instructing them to refrain from writing about public security, oil price increases, new international economic sanctions, inflation, civil society movements, or negotiations with the United States on the future of Iraq, according to Iranian journalists.
"Censorship has got much worse recently," Nobel Peace Prize laureate and human rights lawyer Shirin Ebadi told the BBC in Tehran this week. "Iran's government doesn't like . . . events inside the country to be reflected in the outside world."
One of the biggest crackdowns has been the campaign against "immoral behavior" launched this spring. Iran's police chief said in April that 150,000 people had been detained, but few were referred for trial. The rest were asked to sign "letters of commitment" to honor public behavior and dress codes. An additional 17,000 were detained at Iranian airports in May, the airport security chief told Iranian news agencies.
The Bush administration's $75 million fund to promote democracy in Iran is the key reason for the recent arrest of several dual U.S.-Iranian citizens in Iran, including D.C. area scholar Haleh Esfandiari. Iranian analysts contend that the U.S. funds have also made civil society movements targets because of government suspicions that they are conspiring to foster a "velvet revolution" against the regime.
 

LiddyRules

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Is flat feet still a way to avoid the draft? What about the entire student deferment thing?
 

fuckwit

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What about the entire student deferment thing?
no. draft laws are rewritten every time the draft is instated. so what qualified as a deferment in one draft doesnt mean it will in the next.
 

BIV

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Oh, for the love of Christ, can't we just flatten the whole region already.
 

Jimmy's Dignity

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We'll worry about them when/if they really get heavy handed throughout the world.

I say fuck the Iranians because if you ask any of them living here, America is horrible, yet they don't live in Iran. They always talk about how great a country Iran is, yet they don't live there. I couldn't care less. Their people are here in big numbers and won't admit they're here because it's better. They even try to rationalize it by stating, "We're taking this country for everything it's going to give us, like education". The women here even talk about how great it is over there, meanwhile, they have rights, but are subjugated.
 

LiddyRules

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They always talk about how great a country Iran is, yet they don't live there.
Can we fucking stop using this argument for every stupid goddamned group of foreigner that come to this country? What the fuck does it even mean?

"They always talk about how great Mexico is but if it's so great why are they here?" Seriously. Enough with that goddamned hack fucking line.
 

mendozathejew

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I say fuck the Iranians because if you ask any of them living here, America is horrible, yet they don't live in Iran. They always talk about how great a country Iran is, yet they don't live there.
Iran actually has a large, mostly young population, that not only wants reform and democracy in Iran, they actually like the west and even america. mahmoud ahmadinejad doesnt run shit over there, the clerics do. and they put him in office, by removing every reformer candidate on the ticket.

dont get me wrong the country is full of savages that support terrorism and anti US actions, but there is a decent sized population that desires western democracy. thats why they lock up anyone who even organizes meetings that are just aiming to discuss iranian issues. its a threat

I honestly dont think they plan on attacking israel with nuclear weapons anytime soon. for starters, israel will make a parking lot of the country, nuclear weapons from land, sea, air, and a special visit from the people in my sig. second, they dont need to, not anytime soon. they are attacking us by proxy and israel through hezbollah and other groups.

they are fucking with us. seeing how far they can push, knowing we are in an awful position to do anything about it right now. the whole current governments plans including the nuclear efforts are an effort to stay in business. generating iranian pride by successfully challenging the US, and rallying around the effort to go nuclear. they feel a definite threat from the young population in iran and thats what this is about.

but thats just my kinda-informed opinion
 

mikeybot

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^^^
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There's a number of things I've read backing this up.
(I'd link them but am kinda drunk now and don't feel like it)
 

mendozathejew

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Pssst... they're already in there. Same with Iraq. Shin Bet working directly with the U.S. and special forces in the North that helped organize the kurds.
yeah thats contantly going on with the two countries special forces. the US and Israel also do joint training ops with Jordan all the time, and lots of naval exercises with turkey.

and the thing about israeli jews is that they come in basically every racial appearance. a large portion of israeli jews' families came from iraq and other arab countries, so they can fit right in and do alot of undercover ops