Need a shed. Should I build or buy?

Johnnyboy

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I need a shed, and need to decide on a few things. If I keep under 100 sq/ft, I shouldn't need a permit. But, I need to store all my lawn care supplies which include lawn tractor, trimmers, wheelbarrow, etc. Also would like to keep Generator among other things, and 100 sq/ft is a bit on the small side. So if I go bigger than 100 Sq/ft... I might as well go with something larger. Something like 20' x 14' or something like that. Possibly with a garage door for access.

That aside. I built a 10'X12' shed at my last house and it worked out okay, but was a lot of work. It also allowed me to customize a bit, added shelving, and workbench, etc. On the other hand, if I just buy one, it's no work, but more than double the price.

Also, I have some plans that I drew up myself for a shed (8' X 12'), but curious if anyone has built their own, and know somewhere online where I can get a good set of plans (that include materials list, etc.)

I'm only in the thinking/planning stage now, so no real budget set yet, but I think I would want to keep the entire project under $3000.
 

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You started the "What things have you done to save money but regretted" thread. You do the math.
 

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1) Do you own all the tools needed to build the shed?

If you have to invest in tools, will you use them enough to justify the investment?

2) Do you enjoy construction?

Big one here. It's a pain to build something, so unless you like doing it, you'll be miserable the entire time.

3) How much money is your time worth?

Give yourself a wage for your own time. If your time is worth $10/hour, and it takes you 50 hours, that's $500 in your own labor. How much money does building the shed yourself save you?

Be realistic about this though. If all you'd do is watch TV on the days you'd invest in the shed, your time isn't worth much. But if you could do other jobs that increased your income (or save you money elsewhere), that's a good judge.

4) If you need a permit, will it be inspected?

Inspection means it has to be up to code. Big consideration, especially if you have little to no construction experience.


Ask yourself these questions. I've built plenty of sheds, both small ~6x10' sheds, and equipment sheds (~60x100), but I worked in construction, and most of those sheds I was paid to build.
 

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You started the "What things have you done to save money but regretted" thread. You do the math.
I did the math, still doesn't stop me from being cheap. Some people will never learn
 
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3) How much money is your time worth?

Give yourself a wage for your own time. If your time is worth $10/hour, and it takes you 50 hours, that's $500 in your own labor. How much money does building the shed yourself save you?

Be realistic about this though. If all you'd do is watch TV on the days you'd invest in the shed, your time isn't worth much. But if you could do other jobs that increased your income (or save you money elsewhere), that's a good judge.
This was my response I was typing before he posted it. We bought about a 150sq' building at work and had them build it as the amount for labor really would have been an "opportunity cost" issue.
 

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A permit for a shed that is over 100 square feet!?!?! Where do you liv.....nevermind.

Build it yourself.

$3,000 should buy enough materials for a 20x14' shed plus a truckload of crushed rock that you can level out for a foundation.
 

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This was my response I was typing before he posted it. We bought about a 150sq' building at work and had them build it as the amount for labor really would have been an "opportunity cost" issue.
Yeah opportunity cost is a big consideration. It's something I don't always take into account, but I enjoy construction so it can be a form of recreation for me.
 
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Yeah opportunity cost is a big consideration. It's something I don't always take into account, but I enjoy construction so it can be a form of recreation for me.
My first thought was if you had to ask about a project like this clearly you must not do it for a living or particularly "like" doing a project like this.
 

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My first thought was if you had to ask about a project like this clearly you must not do it for a living or particularly "like" doing a project like this.
Yeah I thought the same thing, that's why I stated all those questions. However if someone wants to start taking on projects like this, a shed is a good place to start.
 

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My first thought was if you had to ask about a project like this clearly you must not do it for a living or particularly "like" doing a project like this.

Well truthfully, this is a project I wouldn't mind doing normally. I actually love home improvement projects. In my old house I installed all new hardwood floors, completely renovated a bathroom, and kitchen, added lighting up the wazoo, and of course built my last shed. But I just bought a new house that has a whole lot of projects that need to get done, and I am afraid that I won't be able to get my car in the garage for the winter because I was doing other projects instead of building a shed for all my outdoor toys.

I was actually thinking about one of those sheds that just need assembling, where all the lumber is pre-cut, etc. Where I maybe just needs to add some additional floor support, and shelves etc. That would make this a 1 or 2 day job with help from a buddy. Kind of a compromise with myself.
 
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Well truthfully, this is a project I wouldn't mind doing normally. I actually love home improvement projects. In my old house I installed all new hardwood floors, completely renovated a bathroom, and kitchen, added lighting up the wazoo, and of course built my last shed. But I just bought a new house that has a whole lot of projects that need to get done, and I am afraid that I won't be able to get my car in the garage for the winter because I was doing other projects instead of building a shed for all my outdoor toys.

I was actually thinking about one of those sheds that just need assembling, where all the lumber is pre-cut, etc. Where I maybe just needs to add some additional floor support, and shelves etc. That would make this a 1 or 2 day job with help from a buddy. Kind of a compromise with myself.
Never really seen a kit where it was all really "pre-cut" but I guess they could exist. Honestly cutting is one of the easier things and seems that it would not be worth the savings but you would have to see the numbers. Of course if you didn't have an air nailer they are pretty cheap to rent or skilsaw if you didn't have one either.
 

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I have the tools necessary to cut things if they are needed. Fuck it... Back to square one... I gotta price out the lumber, and I'll compare knowing that my homemade shed will be designed for my exact specifications, the customization is the best part of doing it yourself.

In my last shed, I had a bunch of old kitchen cabinets for storage (saved from kitchen redo), it worked out quite nice. I also had a 30 Amp 220 plug that was run underground to the house connecting to a few receptacles in the house for my generator, part of the shed had removable wall panels, when removed, was replaced with a screened wall when the generator was running so I didn't die from fumes, and still kept out the wildlife.

I think this discussion is just pushing me to do it myself.
 

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I have the tools necessary to cut things if they are needed. Fuck it... Back to square one... I gotta price out the lumber, and I'll compare knowing that my homemade shed will be designed for my exact specifications, the customization is the best part of doing it yourself.

In my last shed, I had a bunch of old kitchen cabinets for storage (saved from kitchen redo), it worked out quite nice. I also had a 30 Amp 220 plug that was run underground to the house connecting to a few receptacles in the house for my generator, part of the shed had removable wall panels, when removed, was replaced with a screened wall when the generator was running so I didn't die from fumes, and still kept out the wildlife.

I think this discussion is just pushing me to do it myself.
Go for it, it sounds like a fun project.
 

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If you frame up the studs two feet on center it will make installing a couple of 19 inch wide windows nice and easy. Takes a damn narrow window to fit inside of studs spaced 16 inches on center.

Gonna paint or use steel/vinyl siding?
 

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We interviewers are more than a match for the likes of you, Two-sheds!
 

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And by "shed" we're talking about a rape dungeon, right?
 

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Costco has some really nice sheds. My father bought one that's like 11x11 and it's pretty sweet. Had to put it together himself, but it's a solid piece. The cocksuckers in his town require an inspection on pretty much any shed pre-built or not. The only exemption is those real small Rubbermaid ones that you can only put a couple lawn chairs and a pushmower inside.

Where are you located? Up in PA where I used to live alot of people had sheds built by the Amish or Mennonites, either pre-built or on their site.

My buddy recently got a shed built in his yard. When he got the permit, the inspector signed off without even coming to look at it because the builder had such a solid reputation.
 

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I bought 1 of these several years ago
Along with the floor kit and earth anchors

http://www.sears.com/arrow-building...1x000001&kpid=07168220000&kispla=07168220000P

Put the roof beams and floor kit together
And cut the plywood for the floor
Haven't gotten around to putting the rest of it together yet
Yeah , I'm a slacker sometimes
One of these years I'll get it finished
I can legitimately see this post now

maybe time for a new thread

@JoeyDVDZ said:
have you finished your shed yet? I am going to drive over there and kill you with a 2X4
 

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If I can build a shed so can you. Built it you faggot. ;)