New York takes on the big issues: Sippy Cups.

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Legislature approves measure requiring baby bottles, sippy cups to have warning labels

ALBANY - It wasn't just gay marriage and a property tax cap that concerned state lawmakers in the final days of the legislative session.
There were also sippy cups.
The Legislature, for the second year in a row, approved a measure requiring baby bottles and sippy cups to have warning labels about the dangers of childhood tooth decay.
Ex-Gov. David Paterson vetoed last year's measure.
"I can show you photos of children who go to bed with sippy cups," said Mark Feldman, executive director of the state Dental Association, which pressed for the bill.
"All you see is little black stumps that is all that is left of the teeth," he added.
The sippy cup bill was among more than 400 approved by the Senate and Assembly in the final, frantic days of the legislative session.
Many dealt with local concerns like the renewal of a city's or county's sales tax. Others tackled such far-flung topics as hookah sales - and solar-powered trash compactors.
Sen. George Maziarz (R-Buffalo) took a stab at history with a bill creating the War of 1812 200th Anniversary Commemoration Commission.
"New York State played a key role in the War of 1812," Maziarz wrote in a memo accompanying the bill. "Celebrating this milestone gives New Yorkers the opportunity to appreciate and reflect on our rich history."
Maziarz also took out the trash - literally - with a bill requiring solar-powered, trash-compacting garbage cans at four state parks, including Riverbank in Manhattan and Roberto Clemente in the Bronx.
Sen. Martin Golden, a Brooklyn Republican, pushed a bill prohibiting the sale of hookahs, shisha tobacco and water pipes to minors.
"[Kids] shouldn't be in the hookah shops, they should be in schools," Golden told the Daily News.
Sen. Adriano Espaillat (D-Manhattan) and Assemblyman Nelson Castro (D-Bronx) teamed up to pass the so-called Nutcracker Bill, which stiffens penalties for barbershops and bodegas caught selling the homemade alcoholic drink to minors.
Assemblyman Gary Pretlow (D-Westchester) and state Sen. Jeff Klein (D-Bronx) tried to help the state's struggling race tracks by sponsoring a bill to let them offer free tickets as promotional giveaways.
"It is just trying to get people in the track," Pretlow said. "Because the money is not made in the admission fees, it is made in the [betting] handle."
All of the bills are now headed to Gov. Cuomo's desk.
Good to see they are getting shit done.
 

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Politics at its finest. These people are despicable.
 
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The chemicals in the plastic like BPA that leach into the liquids are a bigger danger.
 

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The chemicals in the plastic like BPA that leach into the liquids are a bigger danger.
Is that a call for government regulation and banning I hear, freedom boy? Are you suggesting that the government should step in and take away my right to drink for the plastic container of my choosing?
 

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Is that a call for government regulation and banning I hear, freedom boy? Are you suggesting that the government should step in and take away my right to drink for the plastic container of my choosing?
ConspiraSheep head asplode.
 

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Stupid law. If a child old enough to read a warning label on a sippy cup is still using a sippy cup, they're already lost to society.
 

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How the fuck are you supposed to teach a kid to drink
from a glass? We used them 30 years ago with our kids.
Guess what happened? They grew up and their baby
teeth fell out. OH NOES!!! Fucking waste of time and money
even researching this yet alone legislating it.
 

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The chemicals in the plastic like BPA that leach into the liquids are a bigger danger.
You're actually on to something there. That's why you're not supposed to heat bottles in the microwave. We tried to use glass if we had to use the microwave and we knew this 19 years ago. But still, that's all well and good but, how do you explain that heavily redacted source you posted that appears to have been edited to deceive the readers?

How the fuck are you supposed to teach a kid to drink
from a glass? We used them 30 years ago with our kids.
Guess what happened? They grew up and their baby
teeth fell out. OH NOES!!! Fucking waste of time and money
even researching this yet alone legislating it.
They're not trying to ban them, just make them come with a little sticker warning about rotting their kids' teeth. I really don't see too much of a problem with it, but bottles are just as bad.
 

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How the fuck are you supposed to teach a kid to drink
from a glass? We used them 30 years ago with our kids.
Guess what happened? They grew up and their baby
teeth fell out. OH NOES!!! Fucking waste of time and money
even researching this yet alone legislating it.
Yes, but you probably taught them how to clean their teeth as well.
Here's the issue, if the baby teeth are actively rotting, the decay will progress to the newly forming permanent teeth before they even show.
The problem is real, but the solution isn't going to be a label on a cup. Somehow people have to get less stupid at a fundamental level.
 

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You're actually on to something there. That's why you're not supposed to heat bottles in the microwave. We tried to use glass if we had to use the microwave and we knew this 19 years ago.
The FDA acknowledges the health concerns associated with BPA...

http://www.webmd.com/diet/news/20100115/fda-on-bpa-some-concern-no-ban

FDA on BPA: 'Some Concern,' No Ban
Take 'Reasonable Steps' to Avoid Plastics Chemical Bishpenol A, Agency Advises
So it's not like the government is involved is trying to Suppress the truth, maaaan! And they're stopping short of banning the use of BPA, which would lead to They're quashing my liberties and freedoms, maaaan!

Tough spot for the conspiraloons... damned if they do, damned if they don't... tinfoil wrapped heads aspolde.
 

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Yes, but you probably taught them how to clean their teeth as well.
Here's the issue, if the baby teeth are actively rotting, the decay will progress to the newly forming permanent teeth before they even show.
The problem is real, but the solution isn't going to be a label on a cup. Somehow people have to get less stupid at a fundamental level.
Totally agree it's not a "final solution," but it's just a fucking label. Luckily we learned early on about stuff like this with our kid. If your kid absolutely has to go to bed with a little help, give them a pacifier or a bottle of water, or at least heavily diluted juice. I saw first hand from friends that had rotted their kid's teeth letting them go to bed with juice in their bottles.

The FDA acknowledges the health concerns associated with BPA...

So it's not like the government is involved is trying to Suppress the truth, maaaan! And they're stopping short of banning the use of BPA, which would lead to They're quashing my liberties and freedoms, maaaan!

Tough spot for the conspiraloons... damned if they do, damned if they don't... tinfoil wrapped heads aspolde.
There's also other chemicals in plastics that aren't too good for you. But smelling a nuked plastic container should be your first hint that it can't be good for you so common sense should kick in.
 

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Once again, New Yorkers get the government they so richly deserve.
 

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When I posted this I had no idea there would actually be debate about the issue.
 

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When I posted this I had no idea there would actually be debate about the issue.
Does Kirk posting tinfoil-hat gibberish actually count as "Debate?"
 

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They're not trying to ban them, just make them come with a little sticker warning about rotting their kids' teeth. I really don't see too much of a problem with it, but bottles are just as bad.
My problem is with the time and money that gets wasted with shit like this.
I didn't need anyone to tell me how to raise my kids and especially not the government.
 
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Is that a call for government regulation and banning I hear, freedom boy? Are you suggesting that the government should step in and take away my right to drink for the plastic container of my choosing?
I've said it all should be legal even aspartame but you should have to be truthful about the negative side effects of your product and let the consumer choose if its a risk they want to take. Years from now people will no longer be able to ignore the negative side affects of aspartame and the makers will be sued for billions.... if its still legal to sue them. A lot of these companies have so much influence in government that they somehow get immunity from being sued (Haliburton).