New Zealand Man Ronald Clark Jailed For Watching ‘Pixie Sex’

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By Evan Bleier, Mon, April 22, 2013

A New Zealand man has been placed in jail for watching cartoon videos of pixies, elves and other fantasy creatures having sex. Ronald Clark downloaded the digitally created pornography three years ago. He has previous convictions for indecently assaulting a teenage boy, but the Japanese anime cartoons he was found with were, well, anime cartoons.

Clark said that the videos are part of the Japanese tradition of manga and hentai (cartoon pornography). Clark's lawyer, Roger Bowden, said that the cartoons obviously did not show real people and that “you knew at a glance [they] weren't human.” He says that his client’s conviction for possessing objectionable material was "the law gone mad.”

ECPAT Child Alert director Alan Bell believes that the suggestive images are illegal because they prompt people "to migrate from there to the real thing,” according to Stuff.

"The distribution of it is damaging,” Bell said. “You have to ask what impact does it have even if it's not harming [an individual child]." Bell conceded that no child was harmed during the images’ creation but that they still represented a big problem.

Lincoln University philosophy lecturer Grant Tavinor had this to say:

"The worry is that viewing or distributing such images could support the sexual exploitation of children even if the production of the images did not actually involve the exploitation of any children."

He added:

"The ways a person entertains themself is not morally negligible. This is probably an additional factor in the current case because as well as worrying about the effects these activities might have on children, we also naturally make moral judgments about the character of the person in question.”

Clark has said that he was not sexually aroused by the cartoons. So there you go.
http://www.opposingviews.com/i/society/crime/new-zealand-man-ronald-clark-jailed-watching-pixie-sex
 

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Australia is weird when it comes to pornography. A few years ago they banned porn with woman that had small breasts.
 

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I know it's a different country. I don't give a care.
 

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The anime porn fanbois are in a tough spot here... it would kill them to defend the guy by saying, "You can't arrest him, because anime is just cartoons."... because they go nutso when other people call them creepy for getting boners over "just cartoons".

So, what do they do? Defend this guy by admitting that they're creeps who get boners watching cartoons? Or do they throw this guy in the bag by arguing that they're not creeps for getting boners watching anime because it's legit porn?

Oh no, it's an immoral conundrum... conundrum!
 

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The anime porn fanbois are in a tough spot here... it would kill them to defend the guy by saying, "You can't arrest him, because anime is just cartoons."... because they go nutso when other people call them creepy for getting boners over "just cartoons".

So, what do they do? Defend this guy by admitting that they're creeps who get boners watching cartoons? Or do they throw this guy in the bag by arguing that they're not creeps for getting boners watching anime because it's legit porn?

Oh no, it's an immoral conundrum... conundrum!
Not a conundrum. Hentai is porn. Porn isn't illegal. Creepy guy walks.Unless you drag kidfucking into hentai. Then you've a problem.
 

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Not a conundrum. Hentai is porn. Porn isn't illegal. Creepy guy walks.Unless you drag kidfucking into hentai. Then you've a problem.
And we're back to the original conundrum... how can it be kiddie porn if it's just a cartoon? Who is "the victim" when an adult looks at cartoon kiddie porn?
 

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And we're back to the original conundrum... how can it be kiddie porn if it's just a cartoon? Who is "the victim" when an adult looks at cartoon kiddie porn?
The thing that's illegal about kiddie porn is not getting off on child sexuality. That's socially unacceptable but you can't legislate what someone fantasizes about when they jerk off. The illegality comes from the fact that to make kiddie porn you needs children to do porn stuff. With a cartoon, or with a chick who is of age but looks like a kid, you don't have that problem, so even if you find it extremely repugnant, it is 100% legal.

Personally, I find trannies, scat porn, ATM, and all that shit way more creepy and gross than someone jacking off to Hentai, especially if it is more garden variety Hentai (that is, just people having sex as opposed to monster raipe and shit like that).
 

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And we're back to the original conundrum... how can it be kiddie porn if it's just a cartoon? Who is "the victim" when an adult looks at cartoon kiddie porn?
Stepping stone to the real deal. At least that's the theory. If you wanna watch some chick get pounded by a 12 tentacle alien with wangs at the end of said tentacles, ghead. Enjoy yourself. Wanna watch some child porn but it's a cartoon? Then you've a problem (both morally and legally).
 

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Stepping stone to the real deal. At least that's the theory. If you wanna watch some chick get pounded by a 12 tentacle alien with wangs at the end of said tentacles, ghead. Enjoy yourself. Wanna watch some child porn but it's a cartoon? Then you've a problem (both morally and legally).
The stepping stone argument is bullshit. It's like precognitive crime prosecution. Arresting someone for a crime they may, or may not, commit in the future. It's like arresting people who play violent video games because it's a stepping stone to committing a real murder.
 

Yesterdays Hero

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The stepping stone argument is bullshit. It's like precognitive crime prosecution. Arresting someone for a crime they may, or may not, commit in the future. It's like arresting people who play violent video games because it's a stepping stone to committing a real murder.
Didn't say I agreed with it. Just saying what the theory behind it is. If someone wants to get off by watching children getting fucked, via an animated medium, ghead. Not my cup of tea, but to each their own. Same thing with the 'robots that look/act like children' being used for sex. *shrugs* Not my call.

What's your stance on it THP?
 

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Didn't say I agreed with it. Just saying what the theory behind it is. If someone wants to get off by watching children getting fucked, via an animated medium, ghead. Not my cup of tea, but to each their own. Same thing with the 'robots that look/act like children' being used for sex. *shrugs* Not my call.

What's your stance on it THP?
My stance is that cartoon kiddie porn is a victimless crime and therefore no crime at all. And the "gateway" argument is bullshit be it's a slippery slope that smacks of precognitive "thought policing".
 

Yesterdays Hero

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My stance is that cartoon kiddie porn is a victimless crime and therefore no crime at all. And the "gateway" argument is bullshit be it's a slippery slope that smacks of precognitive "thought policing".
Then yay for bagger solidarity in regards to pulling your pud to animated children, toddlers, infants, and newborns.
 

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Clark said that the videos are part of the Japanese tradition of manga and hentai (cartoon pornography).
Fun fact. In Japanese, the word "hentai" is actually an insult, it means creep or pervert. Oh, the sweet irony.

If this piece of human excrement wants to jerk off to cartoon kiddie porn, all the more power to him, but let's leave other cultures out of it. Manga means comic books, and hentai isn't a word the Japanese use to refer to anything related to manga. It's only used to mean pornographic comics outside of Japan.
 

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Fun fact. In Japanese, the word "hentai" is actually an insult, it means creep or pervert. Oh, the sweet irony.
Yeah, the mild version of that insult is "ecchi," which is also used as a subgenre of anime - which is like anime with sexual innuendo (often of a comedic nature with bouncy boobs and shit).
 
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