Discussion in 'Current Events' started by Neon, Aug 29, 2011.
Why weren't they arrested?
For what? "whaa" Standing there...
For buying masks, obviously. Only a criminal mastermind would do such a thing.
Anonymous has committed crimes, right? And they own up to them too, right?
They haven't made the masks in question illegal to own or wear.
That's why, you fascist.
right but if you admit to a crime and them show up in public claiming to be part of the group that committed said crime shouldn't you then be arrested? If I robbed a bank and then days later walked down the street telling everyone that I was part of the group that robbed the bank wouldn't I be arrested?
I'm just saying, it would be a way to put a scare into these guys.
And if it isn't obvious yet, I don't really follow this stuff.
So they've sold $600,000 worth of these masks, of which Time Warner only gets a piece of. Wish I would have known this before today so I could have bought lots of shares of TW stock in anticipation of the price going through the roof after this latest news.
No, because Anonymous "doesn't exist", that's the beauty of the concept. Some random guy who knows a lot of other random guys sends out a press release that "Anonymous" is going to fuck up xxxxx. They sign with "Expect us, We are Anonymous, We Are Legion, We do not forgive, we do not forget" or something to that effect, but there is no "Anonymous".
There's no ID cards, registration lists, nothing. There is no way to declare yourself a member of Anonymous, nor is there any recognition for being a part of said Anonymous. They are, quite literally, Anonymous.
So you can't arrest people by association for protesting in masks, because there would be no way to prove any association with any internet crimes committed by Anonymous, since in reality, Anonymous doesn't exist. The people in the masks in public are typically just fans of the group's movement anyway, and you can't really arrest someone for being a fan of someone who robs banks, which would be a closer analogy to the one you posed.
The people on the street 99.999% of the time are just fans who enjoy what Anon's doing, and even if one of the elite hackers who actually do the heavy lifting went out to one of these things, he would be sheltered by the masses of people wearing masks just like him -- and don't you think that hackers who're talented enough to bring down PSN, Visa, (That internet security firm I can't remember at the moment), and the Government of Iran are pretty good at hiding their own tracks?
They typically have over 9000 internets behind 7 proxies, come at them bro!(Inside jokes for those that know Anon..._
(I'm very long-winded today, fyi, I'm in the middle of selling a few major deals so I'm in over-explain like an ass hole mode. Enjoy)
That part made me laugh too... What a nonsensical story. The part about "So a portion of Anonymous's dealings adds to their $28 billion in profits" was absurd. Yeah, .0000001% ass hole. I'm sure a few of Anon use Time Warner cable modems too, you wanna try to win a Pulitzer on that fun fact, ass hole?
I didn't really see that as the point of the article. Just another case of a bunch of people who think they are fighting the system while buying masks that make money for an uber media corporation.
They're computer hackers man... It's not like they're going to go buy an injection molding machine to make the masks themselves. Honestly, the people who buy the masks aren't even really what you should consider "Anonymous". They're fans. It's like wearing your favorite team's ball cap.
Either way, it's a non-story riddled with meaningless stats attempting to make you believe that this "fight the man" group is basically funding "the man", and it's simply not the case.
Yeah, that's what I meant. The people who wear those masks in public are not the "real" anonymous - more like dumb kids who want to be part of something. I just got a kick out of it. No biggy.
I don't feel like reading, could someone please highlight the important bits?
When Bush fell, one man was left to pick up the pieces. In 2011 NeonTaster becomes, The Decider.
You're arbitrarily deciding who and what another group is without any logical basis.
Welcome to the internet.
Well, the title was "Make Time Warner Rich." I was reading expecting to see that sales of V For Vendetta DVD's and other merch had gone through the roof and maybe even they were considering making a reboot of the movie. Thought I'd see figures in the billions, was just disappointed.
Meh. Couldn't think of something clever at the time. And I put a question mark there, so I guess the answer would be "no."
It's not about actually making the masks. Anyone could make some fucking masks, for the same amount of money it cost to buy these ones. The problem is they have no design of their own. This is about being so devoid of originality or meaning for your cause that you can't even come up with your own symbolism. It reminds me of black rappers who attack the establishment by flaunting expensive status symbols in our faces.
People who do this don't just have zero self esteem, they lack an identity. They define themselves as anti-'the first thing they see', and then use stolen symbols to express their aimless hatred.
Theft (especially theft of ideas) is the admission that the other guy is better than you: he came up with something you want but are too pathetic to create yourself. It defeats their entire shitty message in one act of mindless hypocrisy.
I'm not defending Anonymous, I'm just pointing out how stupid and misleading the article is.
Though, it's obvious you don't really understand what the real hackers are working towards... The stupid shit like DDoSing Facebook and taking down the Playstation Network weren't really "Anonymous" so much as fan boys of the group who are exactly what you describe.
Norm seems like one of those guys who walks up to a bunch of chaps and jumps into the middle of their conversation as though he were an expert in the field, only to skuttle away before any have a chance to correct him.
They're the web version of a bratty child. They've also got horrid taste in movies. Though I find it humorous they basically have a mascot whose disguise is as one of history's most notorious failures.