NY State Votes For Gay Marriage

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JUNE 24, 2011 10:31 PM1 COMMENT
NY Senate Votes For Marriage Equality
BY CELESTE KATZ

It's over: The New York State Senate has voted to legalize gay marriage by a vote of 33 - 29 tonight.

State Sen. Tom Duane spoke of telling his parents that he was gay, and their fearful response that gays lived lonely lives subject to discrimination and even violence. Duane, who is also HIV+, spoke of making the case for domestic partner benefits and protections against hate crimes as a City Councilman and a senator. He thanked Gov. Cuomo for his "incredible and truthful and strong leadership" on this issue. He also thanked Skelos.

"Marriage says that we are a family. Louis and I are a family," a sometimes-tearful Duane said, speaking of his longtime partner. "It provides security and peace of mind... Marriage recognizes that love and commitment."

State Sen. Mark Grisanti, who was targeted by Lady Gaga and other activists, took the floor -- and ended up receiving a major ovation -- to say he'd "struggled with this immensely... As a Catholic I was raised to believe that marriage was between a man and a woman... I'm also here [with] a background as an attorney."

He said that those who voted for him may question his integrity because of his vote to legalize marriage equality, but "I cannot legally come up with an argument against same-sex marriage," he said, adding that his research shows civil unions lead to chaos rather than true equality. "I believe that you can be wiser today than yesterday, if you do the work."

Under-indictment Brooklyn Sen. Carl Kruger, who voted against legalizing same-sex marriage last time it came up, said tonight's vote was not a big change in his position, but "a reaffirmation of what a family is." He said on behalf of his community, "the right and the freedoms that this Empire State has built its reputation on should live forever. I vote yes."

The religious exemption amendments applied to the bill passed by a vote of 36 - 26.

Sen. Steve Saland, one of the last GOP fence-sitters, spoke at length about the exemptions for religious organizations built into the legislation after much debate.

"What's important about this bill is that it contains a number of additions and a number of changes and very, very critically important is the presence of an inseverability clause at the conclusion of the bill." In particular, he said the exemptions were meant to protect religious or religiously affiliated groups, non-profits, etc. from civil or government actions.

He also noted the initial proposal said a clergyman or minister did not have to solemnize a marriage, and refusal to do so would not create a civil claim cause of action. Saland said protections would also extend to houses of worship by providing that state or local government could not penalize them for declining to perform gay weddings.

"I would really like to add on a personal note that I have as many people are aware, certainly struggled over this issue. It has been an extremely issue to deal with, coming from a rather traditional background and having been married for some 46 years," as well as coming from a family that preached tolerance and respect for others.

"My quandary was all the folks who wrote me all the thousands of letters (and) emails... They all asked me to do the right thing. I'm not sure I can do the right thing by all the proponents and opponents. My decision (is) going to disappoint (some)," he said. "I feel to do otherwise would fly in the face of my upbringing. I know my vote is a vote of conscience and I certainly am at peace with my vote... I feel that if my parents were here, they would tell me I would have done the right thing."

Saland declined to yield to Sen. Ruben Diaz, Sr. on the religious exemption portion of the vote. Diaz, of course, has been one of the most fiery opponents of gay marriage throughout the debate, and suggested Saland's refusal to yield might be construed as Saland being "ashamed" of his vote.

"For the second time, we are trying to redefine marriage," said Diaz, who is also a minister.

"They are making the Republican party do what the Democrats failed to do when they were in the majority," he said, calling the GOP the party that "always protected traditional values" has become a "tool of the Democratic voters."

He and Lt. Gov. Robert Duffy, who is presiding over the Senate, got into an procedural argument about the amount of time alotted to Diaz to speak. He similarly accused Duffy of being ashamed to allow further floor discussion of the bill. "I am proudly voting no," he concluded.
 

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guess this is the 1st place ahc will move to and visit!

 

Josh_R

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Good. It's about time people realize that they have no right to tell people who they can marry (as long as both parties are willing adults).
He said that those who voted for him may question his integrity because of his vote to legalize marriage equality, but "I cannot legally come up with an argument against same-sex marriage,"
This is all anyone needs to know. It doesn't fucking matter what you like, it matters what is right and fair.
 

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marriage is a religious creation and I can understand you making the rules and an outside force coming in and breaking them. It's like if Michael bay made a directors cut of the godfather, or even an accomplished director the point is your changing someone's creation.

But for me I don't really care, go ahead and get married.
 

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Just more reason for God to destroy us in 2012. :icon_cool

(I really don't care, although I'd love to have an agreement where we give them gay marraige, and they agree to put the assless chaps and flamboyantly gay attire away during their parades and gatherings)
 

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meanwhile the 2nd Amendment rights of millions of Americans are being infringed upon
 

MagicBob

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Marriage, in the eyes of the state, is nothing more than a legal contract. No reason reason to keep two adults of the same sex from entering into that contract.

Yer church can refuse to "marry" whoever they want, but the state (again, with the usual cavets-adult/human/etc- to the angrytypingguy voice:"what if I want to marry my dog" dolt parade) shouldnt refuse any.
 

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Finally, gay New Yorkers can do as they choose. Unless they choose to smoke.
 

CousinDave

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good. stop giving a shit about things that do not directly impact your life.

but then how will the carney politicians distract the rubes from focusing on issues like unemployment / underemployment being greater than 20% and the fact that Social Security & Medicare are going to collapse within most of our lifetime?
 

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Good for the gay. Will their divirce rates be as high as "straight" couples? Only time will tell.
 

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but then how will the carney politicians distract the rubes from focusing on issues like unemployment / underemployment being greater than 20% and the fact that Social Security & Medicare are going to collapse within most of our lifetime?
Unemployment will drop drastically with all the wedding planners, catering firms and florists getting a rush of new business, and the fees from all the marriage licences will help close the deficit.
 

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Good for the gay. Will their divirce rates be as high as "straight" couples? Only time will tell.

It'll be higher. You know how the fruits always need to be fucking.


The divorce lawyers are celebrating like never before...
 

CousinDave

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Unemployment will drop drastically with all the wedding planners, catering firms and florists getting a rush of new business, and the fees from all the marriage licences will help close the deficit.

you're actually right and don't forget the professionals will get more work from all the prenups and divorces not to mention all the retailers where the homos will register
 

SuperGolfer

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Finally, gay New Yorkers can do as they choose. Unless they choose to smoke.
Actually, the law allows out of state couples to come to New York to marry. They just can't light up a cigar at the reception, or go to a park to smoke, or one of Bloomberg's damned pedestrian malls he sets up in the middle of a street...