Obama and Huckabee win first 2008 vote

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DES MOINES, Iowa (Reuters) - Barack Obama took a big step on Thursday toward becoming the first black U.S. president when his campaign for change caught fire in Iowa and swept him past Hillary Clinton in the opening Democratic nominating contest.

On the Republican side, underdog Mike Huckabee capped a stunning political rise to beat Republican rival Mitt Romney, despite being dramatically outspent by the wealthy former Massachusetts governor and venture capitalist.

Obama, an Illinois senator, captured the first Democratic prize on the road to the White House with a comeback triumph over New York Sen. Clinton and former North Carolina Sen. John Edwards, who were in a tight battle for second.

"We are choosing hope over fear, we are choosing unity over division and sending a powerful message that change is coming to America," Obama told thousands of cheering supporters.

Both Obama and Huckabee, a former Arkansas governor and ordained Baptist minister, once trailed better-known rivals Clinton and Romney in their race to be on the November election ballot, but rode a wave of grass-roots enthusiasm to victories by touting an outsider's message of change in Washington.

"Tonight what we have seen is a new day in American politics," Huckabee, with actor and supporter Chuck Norris nearby, told cheering backers in Des Moines. "Tonight we proved that American politics is still in the hands of people like you."

The 2008 campaign is the most open presidential race in more than 50 years, with no sitting president or vice president seeking their party's nomination, and the Iowa contest was the most hotly contested in the state's history.

Turnout among Democrats topped 220,000, smashing the previous record of 124,000 in 2004 -- testament to the high enthusiasm among Democrats heading into November's election.

"Today we are sending a clear message that we are going to have change, and that change will be a Democratic president in the White House," Clinton, with husband and former President Bill Clinton at her shoulder, said in Des Moines.

For the winner in Iowa, the prize is valuable momentum and at least a temporary claim to the front-runner's slot in their battle to win the party's presidential nomination in the November election.

All eyes now turn to New Hampshire, which holds the next contest on Tuesday and where Romney and Clinton will face high-pressure bids to revive their candidacies.

The loss was a heavy blow for Clinton, the former first lady who a few months ago was considered in some quarters the almost certain Democratic nominee. She now faces immense pressure to turn around her campaign in New Hampshire over the next five days.

Edwards, who at one time led polls in Iowa and finished a strong second here during a failed 2004 presidential bid, also will face questions about the viability of his candidacy as he goes forward.

DODD DROPS OUT

The first casualty of the evening was Connecticut Sen. Chris Dodd, who finished well out of the Democratic race and dropped out afterward. Dodd had moved his family to Iowa to concentrate on the campaign.

Obama's win effectively makes him the candidate to beat among Democrats, and a win next week in New Hampshire could put him in prime position to capture the nomination. The next big contest would be in South Carolina, where more than half of the voters in the Democratic primary are likely to be black.

Iowa voters filled gathering spots in more than 1,700 precincts around the state to declare a presidential preference in Iowa's caucuses, which open the state-by-state battle to choose candidates in the November 4 election to succeed President George W. Bush.

In the Democratic caucuses, voters debated their options and cajoled their neighbors to switch to their candidate. Republicans conducted essentially a preference poll, casting votes soon after the caucus begins.

For Republicans, Huckabee's upset reshaped a race where no candidate has been able to claim front-runner status.

Iowa, where a sizable bloc of religious conservatives had fueled Huckabee's rapid rise, represented the best chance for the former Arkansas governor to break through with a win.

He will face tougher going in New Hampshire, where there are fewer evangelicals, and he has lingered well behind Romney and Arizona Sen. John McCain in polls.

Romney, a former governor of Massachusetts who has faced questions about his Mormon faith during the campaign, launched aggressive advertising campaigns against Huckabee and McCain in recent weeks.

Iowa's opening contest in the nominating battle has traditionally served to winnow the presidential field of laggards and elevate some surprise contenders.
 
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It's nice that Obama smoked Hillary.
And hopefully the naive democrats will give him the nomination for president at the national convention this year.

Then they can EASILY lose the election. Until there is a dramatic proliferation of liberals and lefty ideals in the South there can never be the possibility of a black president.

There has never been a president in an election without carrying the South. And the South isn't going to vote for a black guy no matter how light he looks.


And I'm not happy about Huckabee's surge. He's not a Republican and everyone is calling him one. If he turns out to be the presidential candidate for the election then I will simply not vote.
 

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Iowa Caucus results

Anthony better brace himself. Obama won the vote in Iowa. Huckabee won for republicans. I am from Iowa and I am ashamed of my state. First, no shwoogies should have that power and Hickabee is just as bad as dimwit Dubya! Please, I bet all the other states. DO NOT ALLOW BLACK or VAG in as president. (The C*nt got 3rd place)
 

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Joe Biden dropped out.:mad4:

Looks like I won't be voting this election season.:rolleyes:
 

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"We are choosing hope over fear, we are choosing unity over division and sending a powerful message that change is coming to America," Obama told thousands of cheering supporters.
Can you please squeeze a couple more cliches into that sentence?
 

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You guys are alll crazy....


Isn't Iowa one of those "fly-over" states that you claim Obama can't win in?


Democrats don't need to win in the south anyway. They just need to win the states they won in 2004 and either florida or ohio.


Obama could easily do that.



I still prefer Edwards over him, but as long as it isn't another republican or hillary I will be happy.
 

mendozathejew

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yeah Iowa is "lily white" and he won it. thats the exact part of the country he was expected to not win

I am just excited to find out what is stronger with liberals (and the media), their faith in the clintons or white guilt. if they start attacking him viciously, as they would any other rival, we will definitely find out.

I tend to think it wont go over well this time
 

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I'm hoping that clinton just bows out graecfully after sub par showings in NH and SC.

Obama doesn't really play the white guilt / race card. The media and the rest of you racists talk about him being black more than he does.


and do we really need some oaf like Huckabee to be in the white house... The guy was a fucking minister..

What the fuck don't people get about seperation of church and state.
 

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Obama doesn't really play the white guilt / race card. The media and the rest of you racists talk about him being black more than he does.
It has nothing to do with Obama, you are right he doesnt play that game at all. Its not about him, or what other blacks say about it for that matter. its not about that, its about what dumb whites with think they should feel (since they dont really have a clue)

Im fine with Obama as a candidate. you can leave me out of the group that does
 

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Anthony better brace himself. Obama won the vote in Iowa. Huckabee won for republicans. I am from Iowa and I am ashamed of my state. First, no shwoogies should have that power and Hickabee is just as bad as dimwit Dubya! Please, I bet all the other states. DO NOT ALLOW BLACK or VAG in as president. (The C*nt got 3rd place)
Did you hear the Ron & Fez segment from the summer where Ronnie talked to a caller from Denver and asked "Isn't that somewhere in the woods between New York and California?"

You're who he was talking about.

I'd prefer Edwards over Obama -- Mrs. Clinton is a republican slob in sheep's clothing. But I'm definitely encouraged by the Huckabee win -- he'll be demolished in a general election based on his faith-based roots, which I'm hoping Americans are sick enough of. Do we really need four more years of the Jesus-loving Southerner bit? I don't think so.
 

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They're all terrible but it's good to see Obama beat Hillary.
 

gleet

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Bubba Clinton got 3% of the vote in Iowa in the 92 caucus.
 

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The voters in Iowa are 93% white. To quote Jack Cafferty on CNN last night, "Iowa is the whitest place in the world outside of the North Pole." Obama still BITCHED Hillary in the caucus. And to top that, he got the majority of the female vote, which just goes to show you that women aren't going to automatically roll over and play dead and vote for a woman just because she's a woman.
Before the Iowa caucus, the gallup/assorted newspaper polls had Obama and Hillary in a dead heat. What happened last night totally nullified that. The same is true for New Hampshire -- Obama and Hillary are neck and neck, so I wouldn't be surprised to see the same thing happen on Tuesday.

On the Republican side, Iowa has an extremely high concentration of fundamentalist/evangelical Christians, which is why Huckabee was able to swoop in and beat Romney's ass. Plus, a lot of people are secretly afraid of Mormons. I have a feeling Romney will still take New Hampshire, though.
 

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I am from Iowa and I am ashamed of my state. First, no shwoogies should have that power and Hickabee is just as bad as dimwit Dubya! Please, I bet all the other states. DO NOT ALLOW BLACK or VAG in as president. (The C*nt got 3rd place)
You are the type of person that challenges my complete belief in the 1st Amendment.
 

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Looks like Obama is going to make a race out of this after all.
 

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I have absolutely no faith in any of the scumbags running for president. I am with Ant...the sooner we are all wiped out the better.
 

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Both parties and both of these candidates are a fucking joke. It's a choice between nanny-state liberals who think that they can run your life better than you can or theocratic pseudo-conservatives who think Jesus can run your life better than you can.
 

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Im fine with Obama. If he wins he had better nominate a mexican VP.
 

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I'm hoping that clinton just bows out graecfully
holy shit raoflmao
that's the funniest thing i've read this century

and ant's right, if either obama or hillary is at the top of the dem ticket, a republican, any republican, is guaranteed to win

this is fritz & tits all over again (that's a geraldine ferraro/walter mondale '84 reference, btw)
a gag ticket--gag as in "fucking joke," and gag as in "stick a finger down my throat"

it really doesn't make a difference who wins anyway, it ain't gonna change our increasing spiral into irrelevance and most likely 3rd world country status

second verse, same as the first
meet the new boss, same as the old boss

if we really wanted change we'd have another revolution

but we don't
and are thus doomed
 

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holy shit raoflmao
that's the funniest thing i've read this century

and ant's right, if either obama or hillary is at the top of the dem ticket, a republican, any republican, is guaranteed to win

this is fritz & tits all over again (that's a geraldine ferraro/walter mondale '84 reference, btw)
a gag ticket--gag as in "fucking joke," and gag as in "stick a finger down my throat"

it really doesn't make a difference who wins anyway, it ain't gonna change our increasing spiral into irrelevance and most likely 3rd world country status

second verse, same as the first
meet the new boss, same as the old boss

if we really wanted change we'd have another revolution

but we don't
and are thus doomed


Anyone who thinks that Obama is a gagticket simply because he is half black is a fucking moron to begin with.


I love O&A but I seriously cringe whenever anthony tries to talk politics. It's watered down Hannity w/ **** jokes tossed in.


The man seriously has no real perception of politics.




Obama will beat ANY of the republicans except maybe McCain if he gets his shit together.



Hillary is hated way too much.. Not because she is a woman, but because she is Hillary.


Tell me what states Obama cannot win that Kerry and Gore won.... I doubt you can.. And I would place odds that he could win both florida and/or ohio.


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Another Edit : I think we are going to see an Obama/Edwards ticket.... All they would need to win is Edwards home state + all of the states gor won and they would win.
 

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Anyone who thinks that Obama is a gagticket simply because he is half black is a fucking moron to begin with.


I love O&A but I seriously cringe whenever anthony tries to talk politics. It's watered down Hannity w/ **** jokes tossed in.


The man seriously has no real perception of politics.




Obama will beat ANY of the republicans except maybe McCain if he gets his shit together.



Hillary is hated way too much.. Not because she is a woman, but because she is Hillary.


Tell me what states Obama cannot win that Kerry and Gore won.... I doubt you can.. And I would place odds that he could win both florida and/or ohio.


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QFT. I don't mind the boys talking politics, but some of the shit that comes out of Anthony's mouth, I disagree with. I think one of the reasons Democrats are getting behind Obama, is one of the reasons why I might pull for him. No two families should have a monopoly on the White House. Plus that line Chris Rock had about Hillary was brilliant. As for Huckabee, as an athetist he really does scare me, so if Republicans want a chance for the White House, they better get their shit together. Also can we slow down with the whole we are doomed as a society mentality. Yes things are bad right right now, but until we see that fiery meteorite hurling at us from the sky, I think we will be fine.
 

mendozathejew

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Obama brought a ton of young voters, and a good chunk of independents to the polls in Iowa. he still doesnt have the backing of the democratic party or voter base. not yet
 
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