Obama orders free birth control for all!

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Most healthcare plans will be required to cover birth control without charging co-pays or deductibles starting Aug. 1, the Obama administration announced Friday.

The final regulation retains the approach federal health officials proposed last summer, despite the deluge of complaints from religious groups and congressional Republicans that has poured in since then. Churches, synagogues and other houses of worship are exempt from the requirement, but religious-affiliated hospitals and universities only get a one-year delay and must comply by Aug. 1, 2013.

“This decision was made after very careful consideration, including the important concerns some have raised about religious liberty,” Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius said in a statement. “I believe this proposal strikes the appropriate balance between respecting religious freedom and increasing access to important preventive services."
Congressional Republicans slammed the decision as an assault on religious freedom.

"This ruling forces religious organizations to violate the fundamental tenets of their faith, or stop offering health insurance coverage to their employees," said the Republican Policy Committee. "Time will tell whether those institutions choose the former or the latter course — but neither option should be necessary, if the administration had not taken such an unbending approach to appease its liberal base."

Access to birth control is the most controversial aspect of the healthcare reform law's preventive care provisions, which require plans to cover such care without co-pays and deductibles. The assumption is that such coverage will prevent people from getting sick and keep healthcare costs down.

The provision has attracted more than 200,000 comments, HHS said — most of them in favor of access to birth control, which the vast majority of healthcare plans already cover. Some religious institutions, however, said they would sooner close their doors than cover birth control, which they liken to abortion in some cases.

"What war and disease could not do to the congregation, the government of the United States will do," Nashville's Dominican congregation said. "It will shut them down."
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This is so full of landmines and lawsuits, I don't know where to start. As much as I would like birth control to be free to all, and mandatory for some; The government has no right to force hospitals owned and operated by churches to distribute something that goes against their faith based rules.
 

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Get out of our lives, you fucking assholes.
Listen sinner, we must populate the Earth with as many potential brainwashable lambs as possible. It's not what God wants, it's what people who claim to know what god wants need.
 

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Most healthcare plans will be required to cover birth control without charging co-pays or deductibles starting Aug. 1, the Obama administration announced Friday.
But, but, but...I can't get pregnant. Trust me. There's really no need for me to be insured for this.
 

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Cool. So can we get rid of those annoying age of consent laws too?

I've seen some hot 15 year olds that look very bangable.
 

Hate & Discontent

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Cool. So can we get rid of those annoying age of consent laws too?

I've seen some hot 15 year olds that look very bangable.
I'm watching House, M.D. right now. He has some blonde jailbait trying to take his cane for a ride. I found this post and my TV watching rather ironic.
 

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I don't see the issue here.

It isn't a law FORCING anyone to take birth control, it is simply making it available without a co-pay if you DO want to take it.


If the church's sheep are so undisciplined that they will take birth control just because it is available then boo fucking hoo.


Besides, I remember reading that this was going to be happening MONTHS ago. It isn't like Obama came up with the idea, it came from the HHS department.



You can't bitch and complain about abortions and then get pissed off if a viable alternative to UNWANTED PREGNANCIES is presented.
 

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hopefully this will reduce the welfare numbers
 

Josh_R

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I don't see the issue here.

It isn't a law FORCING anyone to take birth control, it is simply making it available without a co-pay if you DO want to take it.


If the church's sheep are so undisciplined that they will take birth control just because it is available then boo fucking hoo.


Besides, I remember reading that this was going to be happening MONTHS ago. It isn't like Obama came up with the idea, it came from the HHS department.



You can't bitch and complain about abortions and then get pissed off if a viable alternative to UNWANTED PREGNANCIES is presented.
You really don't understand how insurance works do you? EVERYONE with insurance pays a little of the cost for everyone else's medical problems; thus if every insurance policy is required to cover FREE contraception, then EVERYONE is paying for the cost of contraception in their insurance premiums. I am a man. There is no reason that I should have to pay for contraceptive in my insurance plan. Also, you do realize that just because the government says something is "free" doesn't mean that it doesn't cost anything to research, manufacture, ship, stock, and sell, right?
 

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Cost of birth control without insurance - $30 - $60

so, from 16-30 it costs $5040 - $10,080 to keep a woman on birth control.

Total cost of having a child from conception to delivery is around $20,000 according to the EOB's I had handy from my wife's last pregnancy.

soooo....

It is the Fiscally conservative thing to do to provide birth control.
 

Your_Moms_Box

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You really don't understand how insurance works do you? EVERYONE with insurance pays a little of the cost for everyone else's medical problems; thus if every insurance policy is required to cover FREE contraception, then EVERYONE is paying for the cost of contraception in their insurance premiums. I am a man. There is no reason that I should have to pay for contraceptive in my insurance plan. Also, you do realize that just because the government says something is "free" doesn't mean that it doesn't cost anything to research, manufacture, ship, stock, and sell, right?

So if you don't have cancer then your insurance shouldn't cover cancer treatment.

If you don't have high blood pressure, it shouldn't cover blood pressure medicine...


Your argument doesn't make any fucking sense.

Unless you are in a "white men only" insurance pool.

It would be like women bitching that their insurance premiums pay for your prostate exam.


dolt.
 

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I don't see the issue here.

It isn't a law FORCING anyone to take birth control, it is simply making it available without a co-pay if you DO want to take it.


If the church's sheep are so undisciplined that they will take birth control just because it is available then boo fucking hoo.


Besides, I remember reading that this was going to be happening MONTHS ago. It isn't like Obama came up with the idea, it came from the HHS department.



You can't bitch and complain about abortions and then get pissed off if a viable alternative to UNWANTED PREGNANCIES is presented.
It IS forcing up the cost of everyone's insurance policies, though. Combined with the individual mandate for everyone to have health insurance, the government just robbed more money from the pockets of every american.
 

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So if you don't have cancer then your insurance shouldn't cover cancer treatment.

If you don't have high blood pressure, it shouldn't cover blood pressure medicine...


Your argument doesn't make any fucking sense.

Unless you are in a "white men only" insurance pool.

It would be like women bitching that their insurance premiums pay for your prostate exam.


dolt.
I cannot help that you have no reasoning skills, and therefore my post did not make sense TO YOU. You see, I am a man and therefore I CANNOT get pregnant. My sex does not exclude me from SOMEDAY getting cancer, high blood pressure, or any host of other diseases. My sex does exclude me from getting cervical cancer, from getting pregnant, from needing a hysterectomy, from going through menopause, and from needing birth control. Your ability to properly understand reason is saddening.

Oh, and women should bitch that their insurance premiums pay for prostate exams. The states' influence in the insurance industry has driven up costs dramatically by mandating that every plan MUST cover a whole host of unnecessary medical procedures.