Obama threatens invasion of Pakistan

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WASHINGTON - Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama said Wednesday that he would send troops into Pakistan to hunt down terrorists even without local permission if warranted — an attempt to show strength when his chief rival has described his foreign policy skills as naive.

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The Illinois senator warned Pakistani President Gen. Pervez Musharraf that he must do more to shut down terrorist operations in his country and evict foreign fighters under an Obama presidency, or Pakistan will risk a U.S. troop invasion and losing hundreds of millions of dollars in U.S. military aid.

"Let me make this clear," Obama said in a speech prepared for delivery at the Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars. "There are terrorists holed up in those mountains who murdered 3,000 Americans. They are plotting to strike again. It was a terrible mistake to fail to act when we had a chance to take out an al-Qaida leadership meeting in 2005. If we have actionable intelligence about high-value terrorist targets and President Musharraf won't act, we will."

The excerpts were provided by the Obama campaign in advance of the speech.

Obama's speech comes the week after his rivalry with New York Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton erupted into a public fight over their diplomatic intentions.

Obama said he would be willing to meet leaders of rogue states like Cuba, North Korea and Iran without conditions, an idea that Clinton criticized as irresponsible and naive. Obama responded by using the same words to describe Clinton's vote to authorize the Iraq war and called her "Bush-Cheney lite."

Thousands of Taliban fighters are based in Pakistan's vast and jagged mountains, where they can pass into Afghanistan, train for suicide operations and find refuge from local tribesmen. Intelligence experts warn that al-Qaida could be rebuilding here to mount another attack on the United States.

Musharraf has been a key ally of Washington in fighting terrorism since the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks, but has faced accusations from some quarters in Pakistan of being too closely tied to America.

The Bush administration has supported Musharraf and stressed the need to cooperate with Pakistan, but lately administration officials have suggested the possibility of military strikes to deal with al-Qaida and its leader, Osama bin Laden.

Analysts say an invasion could risk destabilizing Pakistan, breeding more militancy and undermining Musharraf. The Pakistani Foreign Office, protective of its national sovereignty, has warned that U.S. military action would violate international law and be deeply resented.

A military invasion could be risky, given Pakistan's hostile terrain and the suspicion of its warrior-minded tribesmen against uninvited outsiders.

Congress passed legislation Friday that would tie aid from the United States to Islamabad's efforts to stop al-Qaida and the Taliban from operating in its territory. President Bush has yet to sign it.

Obama's speech was a condemnation of President Bush's leadership in the war on terror. He said the focus on Iraq has left Americans in more danger than before Sept. 11, and that Bush has misrepresented the enemy as Iraqis who are fighting a civil war instead of the terrorists responsible for the attacks six years ago.

"He confuses our mission," Obama said, then he spread responsibility to lawmakers like Clinton who voted for the invasion. "By refusing to end the war in Iraq, President Bush is giving the terrorists what they really want, and what the Congress voted to give them in 2002: a U.S. occupation of undetermined length, at undetermined cost, with undetermined consequences."

Obama said that as commander in chief he would remove troops from Iraq and putting them "on the right battlefield in Afghanistan and Pakistan." He said he would send at least two more brigades to Afghanistan and increase nonmilitary aid to the country by $1 billion.

He also said he would create a three-year, $5 billion program to share intelligence with allies worldwide to take out terrorist networks from Indonesia to Africa.
:rolleyes:
 

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He also said he would create a three-year, $5 billion program to share intelligence with allies worldwide to take out terrorist networks from Indonesia to Africa.
Hoo Hoo, Howie Dean!
We're gonna go to Iraq, THEN Syria, THEN Lebanon, THEN Kuwait, THEN Egypt, THEN Libya, THEN Sudan, THEN Somalia, THEN Afghanistan, THEN Pakistan, THEN Indonesia.......... YEARGGHGHGHAGAHHH

What a joke! This golfer can't handle 3,000 of our men dying in Iraq! But he's willing to send them into uncharted, rugged mountainous Pakistani territory where we'd probably lose that many men in a few short months?!!

Yeah.....ok, terrific....
 

MrAbovePar

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Heh... everyone criticized Bush for being brash and not knowing how or when to use diplomacy. Then along comes Obama who makes Bush look like a genius in terms of foreign policy.

Yea, bomb our allies territory and negotiate with hostile nations. Then pull us out of a nation where we're losing about 2 soldiers a day and drop them in a zone where they'll lose 20 a day. That's some great thinking there.
 

TrybalRage

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The democrats only hate war when it's not THEIR war. Hell, same goes for the republicans. Bunch of assholes.
 

Fr. Dougal

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Send Pelosi over there again to "talk to them." Because that's really all that it'll take. Is talking to them. Because they're a peaceful people. :rolleyes:

Actually, yes... send her over there. Her doing it was illegal before. Maybe doing it twice will actually get her in some trouble.
 

Redding

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Thats great that hes saying what hes gonna do when hes president....since he isnt gonna win
 

UCFGavin

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i hate how people buy politicians' bullshit.
 

THE FEZ MAN

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see what happens when dell out sources, bush went after sadam to make his daddy happy and get is oil buddies rich, fucking selfish republicans. obamas a democrat for the people the first order of business is going to do us all a favor and bomb the shit out of those fucking call centers...
 

queeby

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ooooooohhhhhhh, somebody is trying to show us how tough he is because he said that he would negotiate with rouge leaders. Hillary isn't the only cunt running on the Democrat ticket.

How can anyone that claims to be liberal actually like the Democrats?
 

Arch Stanton

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Booger Eating Moron and that goes for anyone who supports this idiot.
 

Vyce

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Awww, look how cute....Obama trying to convince us that he'd actually be aggressive in the war on terror. Well, it was a nice try.

What a joke! This golfer can't handle 3,000 of our men dying in Iraq! But he's willing to send them into uncharted, rugged mountainous Pakistani territory where we'd probably lose that many men in a few short months?!!

Yeah.....ok, terrific....
That's not the most disingenous premise from a Democrat, to be fair. At least with Pakistan, even though they're an "ally", you know you're going to run into plenty of Islamic jihadists.

What I find disgusting, is many Democrats calling for us to abandon Iraq - which will cause, more likely than not the evidence points to, a genocidal civil war - and yet want to send troops into Darfur. Maybe Darfur requires military intervention - but don't try and sell me this shit that stopping the genocide of THOSE brown people is somehow more important for America than preventing a genocide of those other brown people, in Iraq.