Obama voters, Muslims need not apply for Texas gun course

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Obama voters, Muslims need not apply for Texas gun course

Jim Forsyth Reuters
2:27 p.m. CDT, October 28, 2011

SAN ANTONIO (Reuters) - A central Texas gun dealer ran radio ads advising "Socialist" liberals, those who voted for President Barack Obama, Arabs and Muslims that they need not apply for his concealed gun license class.

Crockett Keller, who owns Keller's Riverside Store, ran the ads on the radio station in his rural hometown of Mason, Texas, which is 120 miles west of the state capital of Austin.

"If you are a Socialist liberal and/or voted for the current campaigner in chief, please do not take this class," Keller said in the ad. "You have already proven that you cannot make a knowledgeable and prudent decision as required under the law."

"Also, if you are a non-Christian Arab, or Muslim, I will not teach you the class," Keller said in the radio ad.

Keller said he is simply exercising his freedom to teach concealed handgun license classes to whomever he wants. He said he has received "hundreds" of calls from Americans who support his stance.

"I should have had the class next week instead of this week, I could have had 500 people in it," Keller said on Friday.

He said he was not joking when he put the lines about socialists in his commercial, because he knows some socialist liberals and did not want them to enroll in the class.

"I didn't want them to show up and have to tell them no," he said.

The Texas Department of Public Safety, which oversees the concealed carry program, and licenses instructors, said in a statement that "certified instructors are required to comply with all applicable state and federal statutes, and conduct by an instructor that denied service to individuals on the basis of race, ethnicity, or religion would place that instructor's certification at risk."

The department said it had begun an investigation into the matter, and would "take appropriate administrative action based on the findings of from the investigation."

Adults in Texas are allowed to carry concealed weapons if they have completed a class such as the one Keller teaches.

Keller wrapped up his radio by saying: "With no shame, I'm Crockett Keller. Thank you, and may God bless."

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Nice going dumbass.
 

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If there's a booming Muslim population in rural central Texas this country is even more fucked than I thought.
 

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I'm all for it. Between freedom of speech and the freedom to associate with whomever you want, I see no problem with it. I would be willing to be that if some idiot terrorist-wannabe joined the class and then pulled some stunt, they would absolutely want to know why the CCW instructor didn't turn him away. The line "If you are a Socialist liberal and/or voted for the current campaigner in chief, please do not take this class, You have already proven that you cannot make a knowledgeable and prudent decision as required under the law" is fucking gold!
 

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I'm all for it. Between freedom of speech and the freedom to associate with whomever you want, I see no problem with it. I would be willing to be that if some idiot terrorist-wannabe joined the class and then pulled some stunt, they would absolutely want to know why the CCW instructor didn't turn him away. The line "If you are a Socialist liberal and/or voted for the current campaigner in chief, please do not take this class, You have already proven that you cannot make a knowledgeable and prudent decision as required under the law" is fucking gold!
Apparently you missed this part:

The Texas Department of Public Safety, which oversees the concealed carry program, and licenses instructors, said in a statement that "certified instructors are required to comply with all applicable state and federal statutes, and conduct by an instructor that denied service to individuals on the basis of race, ethnicity, or religion would place that instructor's certification at risk."
He would have been fine if he would have stopped with the Obama joke. Making a blanket denial over something that he is licensed to act in the government's interest for is stupid.
 

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I don't see the problem. They have chl classes for women only. If the community does not like the way this man does business then he will not have customers.
 

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We reserve the right to refuse service to anyone...

As a result of the ban, the Barrett Firearms Company announced it would no longer sell to or service any of its rifles in the possession of any California government agency.[4]

Despite the legislature's claim of a terrorist threat, as of 2010, there has been no terrorist attacks involving a .50 BMG. In fact, not only has the .50 BMG never been used to harm or kill anyone in California, there is no record of a .50 BMG rifle ever being used in the United States to commit a crime.
 

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Apparently you missed this part:

He would have been fine if he would have stopped with the Obama joke. Making a blanket denial over something that he is licensed to act in the government's interest for is stupid.
And that's why the Civil Rights act of 1964 is bullshit.
 

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I don't see the problem. They have chl classes for women only. If the community does not like the way this man does business then he will not have customers.
And I'll bet the businesses offering those classes also offer regular classes in addition to those. I think the guy would have been fine even offering some sort Christian bible-study powwow type class, but to come out and flat out exclude certain people seems like it's in violation of the law.

And that's why the Civil Rights act of 1964 is bullshit.
Blame Republicans then. All I keep hearing lately is how they freed the slaves and were responsible for getting the CRA passed in the 60's.
 

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Blame Republicans then. All I keep hearing lately is how they freed the slaves and were responsible for getting the CRA passed in the 60's.
Fine with me. As soon as the government stepped into making civil rights rules about private businesses, they were out of their jurisdiction. What is really bullshit is that the feds themselves have no problem discriminating against gays, but let a private business fire someone for being gay and see how fast they get sued.
 

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Fine with me. As soon as the government stepped into making civil rights rules about private businesses, they were out of their jurisdiction.
This guy is engaged in a business that works with government agencies helping to secure constitutionally guaranteed rights to citizens. Might make it a little different. It also said he's in rural Texas, what if he's the only place within 100 miles to take the class?

He's an ignorant redneck that knew this would get him some free publicity and that all the other rednecks would travel from all over the state to shake his hand and take his class.
 

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I'm with partycock on this. If this guy had half a brain he would just write something like: "Conditional upon personal interview" and screen the "undesirables" quietly. He's obviously just looking for some publicity.
 

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This guy is engaged in a business that works with government agencies helping to secure constitutionally guaranteed rights to citizens. Might make it a little different. It also said he's in rural Texas, what if he's the only place within 100 miles to take the class?

He's an ignorant redneck that knew this would get him some free publicity and that all the other rednecks would travel from all over the state to shake his hand and take his class.
I don't disagree that he is an ignorant redneck, and that he should be shunned by the community for refusing to do business with someone just because of their religion etc. This is why you shouldn't have to rely on either the government or other citizens before you can exercise your rights. If the government demands that you take classes and bullshit before you are allowed to exercise your rights, they should have to provide those classes. Don't make it contingent upon finding someone who is qualified and willing to teach the class. Yet another unintended consequence of government policies.

I'm with partycock on this. If this guy had half a brain he would just write something like: "Conditional upon personal interview" and screen the "undesirables" quietly. He's obviously just looking for some publicity.
I think this would be far worse. How many well-meaning muslims or Obama voters may he have turned away for no reason without anyone knowing about it? Then what, those people just don't get to exercise their right to carry a weapon, just because some hillbilly says so? Now we know what an idiot this guy is and people can go find another person who is willing to give the class, and he can make all the money that Mr. Keller passed on.
 

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I think this would be far worse. How many well-meaning muslims or Obama voters may he have turned away for no reason without anyone knowing about it? Then what, those people just don't get to exercise their right to carry a weapon, just because some hillbilly says so? Now we know what an idiot this guy is and people can go find another person who is willing to give the class, and he can make all the money that Mr. Keller passed on.
Good point.
 

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Then what, those people just don't get to exercise their right to carry a weapon, just because some hillbilly says so?
Plenty of people don't get to exercise their rights just because some assholes say so. Like residents of NYC, DC, Chicago...
 

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How is this any different than a college or university giving preferential treatment to any one group over another ?
 

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How is this any different than a college or university giving preferential treatment to any one group over another ?
A gun is worth something, the degree that most blacks and hispanics who get into college based on racial quotas isn't.
 

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Blame Republicans then. All I keep hearing lately is how they freed the slaves and were responsible for getting the CRA passed in the 60's.
Two things they should never be forgiven for.
 

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Other than the religion nonsense (and it all is nonsense), this guy is absolutely correct. Dumbfucks that cannot be trusted to make a rational decision shouldn't be making a life or death decision.
 
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Free Speech, Free Market, yadda yadda. The guy's customers will continue to be customers or not, and he'll attract new ones or he won't. Non-story.

We reserve the right to refuse service to anyone...
We need to change this.
There was some dipshit shot in the arm by a .50 BMG at a NASCAR event a couple years ago here. Some idiot fired up in the air fucking MILES away and the round arced into the parking lot of Texas Motor Speedway, through his RV, and through his hayseed arm.