Obamacare/Supreme Court Over/Under Speculation Thread

Myhairygrundle

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I figgered since the ruling was due out this week, maybe even today, we could have a little fun guessing how the ruling will go.


I'm going with the individual mandate overturned 6-3. Ginsberg, Sotomayor, and Briar dissenting.
 

Neckbeard

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5-4 down party lines. Chief Justice Roberts, Alito, Scalia, Thomas and Kennedy shut it down. Wise Latina pens the dissenting opinion en Espanol. Viva la wisa la raza.
 

Neckbeard

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Good. Let the little Boy King get outraged. Forcing people to purchase something is totally overstepping government authority.
 

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Individual mandate tossed, along with certain other provisions, but parts of the law will likely stand. Obama throws a shit fit, Romney says the Supreme Court did well, but we still need to repeal the rest of the bill. 5-4 split decision.
 

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Individual mandate tossed, along with certain other provisions, but parts of the law will likely stand. Obama throws a shit fit, Romney says the Supreme Court did well, but we still need to repeal the rest of the bill. 5-4 split decision.
This.
 

Neckbeard

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What Plank said.
 

Myhairygrundle

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Individual mandate tossed, along with certain other provisions, but parts of the law will likely stand. Obama throws a shit fit, Romney says the Supreme Court did well, but we still need to repeal the rest of the bill. 5-4 split decision.
Or Obama will use it to pander to his base so he can have a second term to "get it right".
 

MayrMeninoCrash

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So assuming it gets tossed, what will the basis be? Will SCOTUS reverse Raich and Wickard, and open the door to challenge state's authorities on medical marijuana, among other possibilities?
 

BIV

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Individual mandate tossed, along with certain other provisions, but parts of the law will likely stand. Obama throws a shit fit, Romney says the Supreme Court did well, but we still need to repeal the rest of the bill. 5-4 split decision.
This. Individual mandate is obviously unconstitutional.
 

Myhairygrundle

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So assuming it gets tossed, what will the basis be? Will SCOTUS reverse Raich and Wickard, and open the door to challenge state's authorities on medical marijuana, among other possibilities?
Are those cases you cite currently up for review or appeal?
 

OilyJillFart

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The health care sector of the equities markets has done well the past week, I wouldn't bet against the money people knowing what's up.
 

Lord Zero

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SCOTUS deadlocks and settles the dispute with a Tweedle Deedle Paddle Battle.
 

Party Rooster

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5-4 overturned. Obama's campaign misinterprets the ruling on "mandate" and decides to post a contest on GLAAD's website offering a candlelit dinner with the president in just a Chippendale's outfit. Highest donor takes the prize.
 

KRSOne

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Its going to be a huge disaster for the country even if they just overturn the part that forces you to buy a product from a private company. I'll bet they purposely put that part in there knowing it will get thrown out, just to distract from the awfulness of the rest of it. Stossel had a surgeon on his show talking about some of the awful parts hes read.
 

Begbie

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Throw the whole fuckin thing out. (BUT BEGBIE!!!! WHAT ABOUT ALL OF THOSE 20-SOMETHING'S ON THEIR PARENT'S PLANS!!!!! WAAAAAAAHHHHHH!!!!) Fuck'em! :icon_cool
 

MayrMeninoCrash

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Are those cases you cite currently up for review or appeal?
The precedents set by those cases would indicate that HCR will be upheld. If it is found that a Congress overstepped its bounds, that opens the door for appeals of cases currently being judged based on the Raich and Wickard precedents, one of which declared that Federal law trumps states' rights on medical marijuana cases (Read Scalia's opinion in Gonzalez vs Raich and substitute health care/insurance for medical marijuana where appropriate)
 

CousinDave

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I have to say the "individual mandate" is the only thing about ObamaCare that I support

The problem is that the penalty for not complying is less than the cost of complying

Only the likes of Little Barry, Princess Nancy, Queen Barney, etc... could come up with such nonsense
 

Sinn Fein

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The big Zero will be throughly outraged if its shitcanned.
Good.

Good. Let the little Boy King get outraged. Forcing people to purchase something is totally overstepping government authority.

It certainly is.

Individual mandate tossed, along with certain other provisions, but parts of the law will likely stand. Obama throws a shit fit, Romney says the Supreme Court did well, but we still need to repeal the rest of the bill. 5-4 split decision.
Most likely outcome...

Or Obama will use it to pander to his base so he can have a second term to "get it right".
Of course this will happen.

Throw the whole fuckin thing out. (BUT BEGBIE!!!! WHAT ABOUT ALL OF THOSE 20-SOMETHING'S ON THEIR PARENT'S PLANS!!!!! WAAAAAAAHHHHHH!!!!) Fuck'em! :icon_cool
Well, I remember quite the discussion about how there is no severability clause in the Obamacare bill...
 

Begbie

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I do actually support the part about allowing parents to cover their kids up to the age of 26. Especially in this day in age, where it's damn near impossible to find work coming out of college. If parents are going to pay for the extra coverage...why should I give a shit?