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Obamacare/Supreme Court Over/Under Speculation Thread

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by Myhairygrundle, Jun 25, 2012.

  1. Myhairygrundle

    Myhairygrundle Screw you guys, I'm going home.

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    I figgered since the ruling was due out this week, maybe even today, we could have a little fun guessing how the ruling will go.


    I'm going with the individual mandate overturned 6-3. Ginsberg, Sotomayor, and Briar dissenting.
     
  2. Neckbeard

    Neckbeard I'm Team Piggy!

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    5-4 down party lines. Chief Justice Roberts, Alito, Scalia, Thomas and Kennedy shut it down. Wise Latina pens the dissenting opinion en Espanol. Viva la wisa la raza.
     
  3. d0uche_n0zzle

    d0uche_n0zzle **Negative_Creep**

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    The big Zero will be throughly outraged if its shitcanned.
     
  4. Neckbeard

    Neckbeard I'm Team Piggy!

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    Good. Let the little Boy King get outraged. Forcing people to purchase something is totally overstepping government authority.
     
  5. Hate & Discontent

    Hate & Discontent Yo, homie. Is that my briefcase?

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    Individual mandate tossed, along with certain other provisions, but parts of the law will likely stand. Obama throws a shit fit, Romney says the Supreme Court did well, but we still need to repeal the rest of the bill. 5-4 split decision.
     
  6. Falldog

    Falldog Wackbag's Best Conservative
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    This.
     
  7. Neckbeard

    Neckbeard I'm Team Piggy!

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    What Plank said.
     
  8. Myhairygrundle

    Myhairygrundle Screw you guys, I'm going home.

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    Or Obama will use it to pander to his base so he can have a second term to "get it right".
     
  9. MayrMeninoCrash

    MayrMeninoCrash Liberal Psycopath

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    So assuming it gets tossed, what will the basis be? Will SCOTUS reverse Raich and Wickard, and open the door to challenge state's authorities on medical marijuana, among other possibilities?
     
  10. BIV

    BIV I'm Biv Dick Black, the Over Poster.

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    This. Individual mandate is obviously unconstitutional.
     
  11. Myhairygrundle

    Myhairygrundle Screw you guys, I'm going home.

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    Are those cases you cite currently up for review or appeal?
     
  12. d0uche_n0zzle

    d0uche_n0zzle **Negative_Creep**

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    Riots in da'streets, yo.
     
  13. OilyJillFart

    OilyJillFart Well-Lubed Member

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    The health care sector of the equities markets has done well the past week, I wouldn't bet against the money people knowing what's up.
     
  14. Lord Zero

    Lord Zero Viciously Silly

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    SCOTUS deadlocks and settles the dispute with a Tweedle Deedle Paddle Battle.
     
  15. Party Rooster

    Party Rooster Unleash The Beast

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    5-4 overturned. Obama's campaign misinterprets the ruling on "mandate" and decides to post a contest on GLAAD's website offering a candlelit dinner with the president in just a Chippendale's outfit. Highest donor takes the prize.
     
  16. KRSOne

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    Its going to be a huge disaster for the country even if they just overturn the part that forces you to buy a product from a private company. I'll bet they purposely put that part in there knowing it will get thrown out, just to distract from the awfulness of the rest of it. Stossel had a surgeon on his show talking about some of the awful parts hes read.
     
  17. Lord Zero

    Lord Zero Viciously Silly

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    Fuck. I meant to write "beetle". [Car crash]
     
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  20. Begbie

    Begbie Wackbag Generalissimo

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    Throw the whole fuckin thing out. (BUT BEGBIE!!!! WHAT ABOUT ALL OF THOSE 20-SOMETHING'S ON THEIR PARENT'S PLANS!!!!! WAAAAAAAHHHHHH!!!!) Fuck'em! :icon_cool
     
  21. MayrMeninoCrash

    MayrMeninoCrash Liberal Psycopath

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    The precedents set by those cases would indicate that HCR will be upheld. If it is found that a Congress overstepped its bounds, that opens the door for appeals of cases currently being judged based on the Raich and Wickard precedents, one of which declared that Federal law trumps states' rights on medical marijuana cases (Read Scalia's opinion in Gonzalez vs Raich and substitute health care/insurance for medical marijuana where appropriate)
     
  22. CousinDave

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    I have to say the "individual mandate" is the only thing about ObamaCare that I support

    The problem is that the penalty for not complying is less than the cost of complying

    Only the likes of Little Barry, Princess Nancy, Queen Barney, etc... could come up with such nonsense
     
  23. Myhairygrundle

    Myhairygrundle Screw you guys, I'm going home.

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    Well, I guess Thursdee is the day.
     
  24. Sinn Fein

    Sinn Fein Infidel and White Interloper
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    Good.


    It certainly is.

    Most likely outcome...

    Of course this will happen.

    Well, I remember quite the discussion about how there is no severability clause in the Obamacare bill...
     
  25. Begbie

    Begbie Wackbag Generalissimo

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    I do actually support the part about allowing parents to cover their kids up to the age of 26. Especially in this day in age, where it's damn near impossible to find work coming out of college. If parents are going to pay for the extra coverage...why should I give a shit?
     

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