Obama's Kingdom on Earth. Or: The Prophet is a Ni *DONG*

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Get your religion out of my politics. Stop sucking Jesus cock as though that means anything. Unfortunately, it does mean something to the idiotic voters who think that praising Jesus is a prerequisite to a good leader.

And the Republicans use faith a lot better than the Democrats who will always look like Johnny Come Latelys.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/10/08/obama.faith/index.html

GREENVILLE, South Carolina (CNN) -- Republicans no longer have a firm grip on religion in political discourse, Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Barack Obama told Sunday worshippers.

Sen. Barack Obama speaks Sunday at Redemption World Outreach Center in South Carolina.

The senator from Illinois delivered his campaign message to a multiracial evangelical congregation in traditionally conservative Greenville, South Carolina. "I think it's important, particularly for those of us in the Democratic Party, to not cede values and faith to any one party," Obama told reporters outside the Redemption World Outreach Center where he attended services.

"I think that what you're seeing is a breaking down of the sharp divisions that existed maybe during the '90s," said Obama. "At least in politics, the perception was that the Democrats were fearful of talking about faith, and on the other hand you had the Republicans who had a particular brand of faith that oftentimes seemed intolerant or pushed people away."

Obama said he was pleased that leaders in the evangelical community such as T.D. Jakes and Rick Warren were beginning to discuss social justice issues like AIDS and poverty in ways evangelicals were not doing before.

"I think that's a healthy thing, that we're not putting people in boxes, that everybody is out there trying to figure out how do we live right and how do we create a stronger America," Obama said.

He finished his brief remarks by saying, "We're going to keep on praising together. I am confident that we can create a Kingdom right here on Earth."

It's rare for Democratic candidates to venture to the traditionally conservative Upstate region of South Carolina, which is characterized politically by church-going Republican primary voters living in and around Greenville and Spartanburg.

But Obama's visit here is not surprising given his campaign's recent efforts in South Carolina to reach out to Christian voters, including the state's large African-American population that makes up an estimated 50 percent of voters in the 2008 January Democratic primary.

A Los Angeles Times/Bloomberg poll of 313 South Carolina Democrats conducted in early September put Obama -- with 27 percent -- behind New York Sen. Hillary Clinton, who was leading with 45 percent. The survey's margin of error was plus or minus 5 percentage points.

Nationwide, an average of 12 national polls conducted in September showed Clinton -- with 43 percent -- leading Obama who had 24 percent.

Obama's South Carolina campaign is in the midst of promoting Obama's values through a grass-roots effort called "40 Days of Faith and Family," which is reaching out to primary voters through gospel concerts and a series of faith forums.

Last weekend, Obama attended, but did not speak at, two churches in Columbia, one predominantly black and one predominantly white. At a town hall meeting in Aiken on Saturday, Obama was introduced by a pastor who led the crowd of 2,400 in a brief prayer.

There are times on the stump when Obama even sounds like a pastor himself, referencing New Testament phrases and sometimes saying "I'm not gonna preach to ya!" when emphasizing a point to his audience.

According to the religion-based Web site Beliefnet.com and its "God-o-Meter" tool that measures "God-talk" in the presidential campaigns, Obama invokes religion more than any of his Democratic competitors.

The Republican Party continues to be seen by half of Americans as "more friendly" toward religion, according to the Pew Forum on Religion & Public Life Survey.

The poll said 50 percent of all respondents described Republicans as "more friendly toward religion."

From July 2006 to August 2007, the number of respondents describing Democrats as "more friendly toward religion" increased from 26 percent to 30 percent, according to the center.

Poll respondents who described Democrats as unfriendly toward religion decreased during the same period from 20 percent to 15 percent, the survey said.

The poll -- which used data collected from telephone interviews of 3,002 U.S. adults from August 1 to 18 -- had a margin of error of plus or minus 2 percentage points.
 

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Everyone can get behind black Jesus. Just look at his Jesus fro.
 
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I heard something on CNN about religious republicans threatening to form their own party.

I guess there's no better way to separate the myth & the state then to parade Guliani in drag.

Not like our president has killed a soul.
 

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I heard something on CNN about religious republicans threatening to form their own party.

I guess there's no better way to separate the myth & the state then to parade Guliani in drag.

Not like our president has killed a soul.
anything that helps dismantle the GOP and allow the traditional conservatives to take back over.
 
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Obama is a Muslim, the Jesus crap is a cover up.
Barack Obama Is a Muslim
Netlore Archive: Email rumor alleges that probable U.S. presidential candidate Sen. Barack Obama is a loyal Muslim who has lied about his religious background, including his claim to being a devout Christian


Description: Email rumor
Circulating since: January 2007
Status: False


Not like I like the guy, but the laziness in society is ridiculous.
 

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Barack Obama Is a Muslim
Netlore Archive: Email rumor alleges that probable U.S. presidential candidate Sen. Barack Obama is a loyal Muslim who has lied about his religious background, including his claim to being a devout Christian


Description: Email rumor
Circulating since: January 2007
Status: False


Not like I like the guy, but the laziness in society is ridiculous.
Of course he's a Muslim. He's black!

Damn, you just been pwned!
 

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.... And the Republicans use faith a lot better than the Democrats who will always look like Johnny Come Latelys.
Johnny come latelys, or just WAY too over the top. Remember a year ago when Madam Hillary was using the souther black voice in a speech? It's just pandering.
 

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Personally... I could give a rat's ass which particular flavor of magical sky daddy the guy worships. So long as he's not operating under the delusion that he gets his marching orders directly from Him, like the numbskull who's currently in the White House does, then I could care less if the guy worships Jeebus, the fat squatting chink, Moe-homid, or even L. Ron fucking Hubbard.

As long as he thinks with his brain, rather than some book of ancient fairytales, then I just don't care which religious glee club he pays lip service to.
 

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anything that helps dismantle the GOP and allow the traditional conservatives to take back over.
This again. Yeah, cause neocons are really running the party now, huh? I've gone over this before. If you look at the political landscape of the GOP, "traditional" conservatives ARE the ones who are running the party.

I'm all for Republicans cutting ties with the evangelicals, but the current situation that's given rise to this is bullshit. Basically, James Dobson has been taking lessons from Al Sharpton, I guess, in intellectual terrorism, because he's claiming that if Rudy gets the nomination, he's going to form a third party / present a third party candidate. Which all but ensures a Hillary victory.

YourAmishDaddy said:
Not like I like the guy, but the laziness in society is ridiculous.
The criticism is not so much that he IS a Muslim, but he certainly comes from a family / background of Muslims (on his father's side at least), so the knock on him is that he will be soft on Muslims in the future, and while we're still engaged in a war on terror AGAINST radical Islam, that is a rather troubling concern.
 

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Barack Obama Is a Muslim
Netlore Archive: Email rumor alleges that probable U.S. presidential candidate Sen. Barack Obama is a loyal Muslim who has lied about his religious background, including his claim to being a devout Christian


Description: Email rumor
Circulating since: January 2007
Status: False


Not like I like the guy, but the laziness in society is ridiculous.
Ummm....you read that on the internet too. We appear to be at an impasse.

Do you want to take the CHANCE that our president is a guy that MAY have been educated in a muslim school? I don't.

For god's sakes, if you're a liberal vote for Hillary or Edwards or anyone else. Or better yet, stay home on election day.
 

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I'd vote for edwards if I were voting democratic. He's the least awful of the top three, none of the other democrats look interesting... and of course he's a white man.

I think I'd shoot myself before I voted for Edwards.

I wish Obama were a good candidate, just becuase it was so much fun shouting "o-BAMA" like Opie would.

Ron Paul is the only good choice right now. None of the potential negatives outweigh the positives.
 

LiddyRules

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Do you want to take the CHANCE that our president is a guy that MAY have been educated in a muslim school? I don't.
Hahahahahah. Oh wait, you're being serious.

I'm sad now.
 
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For god's sakes, if you're a liberal vote for Hillary or Edwards or anyone else. Or better yet, stay home on election day.
No I just think the whole thing is fucking silly. If it's your, or someone else's or my boy in the race and someone posts that kind of thing we never accept it. We will deny and do everything possible to not deal with it. Some flimsy rumor starts about Obama and it takes some of you a split second to run with it. No facts, no research.

One thing I am, if not an ideologue like most of you, is thorough.

And like I've said time and time again I am voting for Ron Paul.
 

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I'd vote for edwards if I were voting democratic. He's the least awful of the top three, none of the other democrats look interesting... and of course he's a white man.
Personally, I disagree. Of the top three, I think he's absolutely the MOST awful of them.

The list, IMO, of most awful to least awful, goes:

1. Edwards.
2. Obama.
3. Hillary.

And yes. It is a sorry state of affairs, in American politics, that fucking Hillary is the "best" choice available from one of America's only two dominant parties.