Oliver Stone's 'Savages' 5-25-2012

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[video=youtube;KC2zbOwbeEs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KC2zbOwbeEs[/video]
 

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Probably the first Oliver Stone movie I've wanted to see since Any Given Sunday.
 

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Just saw this trailer. Does anyone else think this borrows heavily from the events depicted in Cocaine Cowboys? It all fits:

Salma Hayek - Griselda Blanco
Benicio Del Toro - Rivi
Kitch and Donovan - Jon Roberts and Micky Munday
Blake Lively - Jon Roberts' girlfriend

And there also seems to be a fed (could be anyone), and other characters like Marmlestein. Obviously this movie plays out differently, but when I saw the trailer for the first time, until the halfway point I was sure it was a dramatization of Cocaine Cowboys.
 

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Sounds Plausible. But Deltoro's character seems like a composite of Rafa and Rivi. The cartel leader is possibly a composite of the Ochoa brothers. But I think Ben is Mermelstein and the other guy who uses violence is Roberts. Deltoro's charachter might also be based off of Cuban drug kingpin and partner of Jon Roberts named Albert San Pedro. Interesting article about San Pedro and hat asshole reporter Rick Sanchez. Seems tey were buddies. http://guanabee.com/2010/08/rick-sanchezs-alberto-san-pedro-gangster/
I want to see this either way.
 

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Sounds Plausible. But Deltoro's character seems like a composite of Rafa and Rivi. The cartel leader is possibly a composite of the Ochoa brothers. But I think Ben is Mermelstein and the other guy who uses violence is Roberts. Deltoro's charachter might also be based off of Cuban drug kingpin and partner of Jon Roberts named Albert San Pedro. Interesting article about San Pedro and hat asshole reporter Rick Sanchez. Seems tey were buddies. http://guanabee.com/2010/08/rick-sanchezs-alberto-san-pedro-gangster/
I want to see this either way.
Hahaha that's exactly the type of post I was expecting. Yeah, the possible connection to that whole story makes me want to see this more. I agree with Liddy that this is his first movie since Any Given Sunday that I want to watch. I really liked Any Given Sunday, by the way. It was one of the reasons I started to become interested in football.


By the way, I'm still leaning Roberts/Munday. One of them is the expert in the product (Munday), and the other busts skulls (Roberts). Travolta could be a combination of Marmlestein and someone else (he's a Fed in the movie). I have a feeling I'll have plenty of "a ha" moments when I see this.
 

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BTW, according to the director of Cocaine Cowboys, they are making a Cocaine Cowboys series that is supposedly gong to air on HBO.
 

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BTW, according to the director of Cocaine Cowboys, they are making a Cocaine Cowboys series that is supposedly gong to air on HBO.
That's been in the works for years, I even think Showtime had the rights to it for a couple years and then HBO picked it up. Who knows it if will ever happen.

Just looked it up, now it looks like there's a movie in the works, Peter Berg producing, the writer of World Trade Center scripting, which if it comes out as bad as her draft of Straight Outta Compton, it will be horrid.
 

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Anyone else getting a Way of the Gun vibe from this?
 

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Just saw this trailer. Does anyone else think this borrows heavily from the events depicted in Cocaine Cowboys? It all fits:

Salma Hayek - Griselda Blanco
Benicio Del Toro - Rivi
Kitch and Donovan - Jon Roberts and Micky Munday
Blake Lively - Jon Roberts' girlfriend

And there also seems to be a fed (could be anyone), and other characters like Marmlestein. Obviously this movie plays out differently, but when I saw the trailer for the first time, until the halfway point I was sure it was a dramatization of Cocaine Cowboys.
Have you read the book? I never saw Cocaine Cowboys So im not sure of the comparison here.

if they follow the book. Their should eb a couple of very interesting scens with O - (Blake lively ) with chon - ( taylor kitcsh ) and ben - aaron johnson

Did cocaine cowboys involve a kidmapping?
 

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Have you read the book? I never saw Cocaine Cowboys So im not sure of the comparison here.

if they follow the book. Their should eb a couple of very interesting scens with O - (Blake lively ) with chon - ( taylor kitcsh ) and ben - aaron johnson

Did cocaine cowboys involve a kidmapping?
No it didn't. It's a documentary about the Mexican cartels and the flow of cocaine to the US. I just meant that a lot of the characters seem to line up with the types portrayed in Cocaine Cowboys.
 

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No it didn't. It's a documentary about the Mexican cartels and the flow of cocaine to the US. I just meant that a lot of the characters seem to line up with the types portrayed in Cocaine Cowboys.
Colombian cartels. The Mexicans didn't really take over the drug trade until after the death of Pablo Escobar and the fall of the other Colombian cartels. But I do like the comparison you talked about to Cocaine Cowboys.

This movie does look pretty interesting. But I wonder if it bombs will that be end of Taylor Kitcsh's movie career. I can't imagine someone coming back from being in 3 flops during the same year.
 

luckie1710

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No it didn't. It's a documentary about the Mexican cartels and the flow of cocaine to the US. I just meant that a lot of the characters seem to line up with the types portrayed in Cocaine Cowboys.
Ahh ok. I read the book a year or so ago and thought it was really good. Dont want to get into it too much and give too much away.
 

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Colombian cartels. The Mexicans didn't really take over the drug trade until after the death of Pablo Escobar and the fall of the other Colombian cartels. But I do like the comparison you talked about to Cocaine Cowboys.

This movie does look pretty interesting. But I wonder if it bombs will that be end of Taylor Kitcsh's movie career. I can't imagine someone coming back from being in 3 flops during the same year.
His other two movies looked like they would be bombs before hand. I dont think thats the case with Savages.