Oprah doing the ebonics - Ant is right

RMPGP

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I LOVE Patrice, but I feel like Ant is all over this. Oprah blackened up her speech just to appeal to some lowest common denominator of the black culture. A double negative isn't proper speech, acting like reading is bad isn't good.

Martin Luther King didn't have to resort to that bullshit, and his speech was one of the most famous ever in recent history.

Patrice says you speak different with your friends, but a speech isn't just talking with your friends, it's a very calculated thing. She was appealing to her crowd, that's one of the first things you learn from rhetorical speech. Putting on that accent shows that she's trying to appeal to ignorance.

Kudos Ant. :clap:
 

Stormrider666

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What Oprah did, was no different than what Hillary did, appeal to who she was speaking to. As for the book thing, that was referring more to her book club thing. Do I have problem with what she or what Hillary did, No. Part of politics is putting on a show. Its up to the voters to cut through the bullshit, and find some reason to vote for the people running for office.
 

Zona992006

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Wow, she spoke differently infront of black people? Really? Wow.
 

trucker_ben

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The Dems are letting the easiest win slip right through their fingers while the Republican's sit silent and watch.
 

TallBaby

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I hate it when a celebrity endorses a political candidate. Let everyone make their own decisions in this sort of thing.
 

Zona992006

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I hate it when a celebrity endorses a political candidate. Let everyone make their own decisions in this sort of thing.
Celebs have Sheeple. But dont worry...Remember Stern backing up Kerry :icon_lol: You see how well that turned out...lol
 

frago

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dems suck thats why
 

wowgrl

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Sheep are sheep. They are the first to both rally behind you or stab you in the back.

Oprah is not as powerful as everyone makes her out to be. They build her up and just as easily tear her down (i.e. her weight).

People will make up their own minds, informed or not.

Her hand is not that heavy.
 

PMB917

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Anthony was %100 correct this morning. Its just a shame that Patrice has to feel like he has to defend her.
 

ginaf20697

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The bad part to me isn't that she changed how she talks. The bad part is that she felt that blacks didn't want to hear about books. How insulting.
 

Your_Moms_Box

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I hear that next election Oprah is going to endorse "WHO GIVES A SHIT"


seriously, who cares what the fuck Oprah does.


People speak differently depending on their audience, it's not anything new. It's a sales and speking strategy/tactic.




I actually like Obama, and what Oprah says has no influence one way or another on that.

I can't stand Hillary, and the entire crop of republicans are even worse.....


and yes.... I include the internet Jesus, Ron Paul in that statement! I can't take anyone who claims to be a "true republican"/"Libertarian" seriously when they are pro-life.
 

HumpX

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To be honest I don't blame Oprah, she knows she has to do shit like that just keep her credibility with her own people. It's more of a negative commentary as to where their (you know, "those people") heads are at, not hers.
 

BOUGHTONII

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i believe the right term is dumbing down. shame on oprah. no substance only color.

ps wasn't she the one who said investing in
OUR schools and kids was a waste.

i rate this purple
 

Fat Opie

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Oprah was basically saying that black people are uneducated by saying what she said the way she said it and to whom she said it. Since she's educated enough to speak better than that publicly on a daily basis, the people she was addressing should be offended and insulted that she chose to speak to them in that manner.

If Obama thinks it was acceptable for her to represent him that way, he's no better.
 

Kris_LTRMa

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Sheep are sheep. They are the first to both rally behind you or stab you in the back.

Oprah is not as powerful as everyone makes her out to be. They build her up and just as easily tear her down (i.e. her weight).

People will make up their own minds, informed or not.

Her hand is not that heavy.
Except that his approval ratings or whatever they're called increased to where he is only 10 points behind Hilary. That happened since Oprah announced she was backing him.

Unfortunately, there are a lot more sheeple out there than we want to think there are ... too many people have no idea what's going on either through ignorance or laziness and so when a celebrity they like endorses someone, they're just going to jump on board the band wagon as well.

I'm also sick of polls asking the likeability of a candidate. I don't care which candidate looks more approachable, which seems more like the type you'd have a beer with etc etc ... I want to know who's going to fix this country
 

Cup O Broth

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I will get beaten up for this... but I love Obama for what he says. His message is the same, regardless of what he is saying. He throws the ebonics in and he is saying the same thing as when he talks to white people.

I liked Obama long before Oprah supported him. I look at the people who might be president, (other than Ron Paul) and Obama is the best of that field.

He is the best out of the current options.

Not to criticize Ant, but he will never have to serve in the military as the result of bad decisions of a president. We are getting there.
 

BOUGHTONII

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our political system is us against them. no fact, no honor divide and concur. sheep do as they are told
 

hudsonharden

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Ant was saying that Oprah shouldn't have to change her speech when addressing black people in South Carolina, but the way it stands today, we are still different, so she will convey her message better if she does "black" it up a little bit. It is totally phony and calculcated, but every move is when presidential politics are involved.
 
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People speak differently depending on their audience, it's not anything new. It's a sales and speking strategy/tactic.
This is a good point, and a caller today made it as well. When I'm at work, I speak one way, and when I'm with the friends I grew up with, I speak differently. Politicians do it as well. Listen to a souther presidential candidate speak to a small southern audience, or a northerner speak to a rural New England community. The fact is, they will speak differently to try and identify with their audience, that's just the way it is. Every politician is phony, maybe with the exception of McCain in 2000 and Kucinich. Having spent some time around politicians, I cannot stand any of them. Oprah did the same thing every politician and their supporters have done for decades, it's just more noticable with the way the shitty media is today. It doesn't make it right, but it's a reality for every politician. Fuck it, I may not vote this election.