Our Immigration System Sucks!

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The Most Vile and Inhumane Immigration Story You Will Read This Week
Mike Riggs | February 15, 2012

Felipe Montes lived and worked in the United States for nine years. During that time, he held a full-time job, paid his bills, and fathered two children with his wife, Marie. He failed, however, to pay several traffic tickets, or to acquire a driver's license or car insurance. As a result, a 2010 traffic stop ended with Montes being taken to a detention center where he was scheduled for deportation.

Marie Montes gave birth to the couple’s third child while her husband was behind bars. Six weeks later Felipe Montes was deported. Two weeks after that, the Allegheny County child welfare department took all three children from Marie Montes on the grounds that she could not afford to take care of them, and put them in foster care, where two of them have already been abused.

Color Lines, the publication put out by the immigration reform think tank Applied Research Center, interviewed Montes, his wife, and their neighbors in Sparta, North Carolina. “He was a real good guy and as a worker he could do anything,” said Montes’ former boss. “He loved those kids more than anything. We’d be doing tree work and it’d be kind of dangerous and he’d say, ‘I’ll do this but if something happens you have to take care of the kids, ok?’”

“I love my kids to death,” Montes told Color Lines. “When they were born, it’s something so wonderful you can’t explain.”

Apparently, love and dedication doesn’t qualify Montes to be a dad anymore, as the state of North Carolina is putting his children up for adoption:

Allegheny County has already convinced a judge to end family reunification efforts with Marie Montes. She wants the children to be placed with their father. “If they can’t be with me, I want them to be with him,” she said. “Nobody is a better father than he is.”

But next week, on February 21, the county’s Department of Social Services plans to ask a judge to cease all efforts to reunify the family and put the children into adoption proceedings with foster families. Though Felipe Montes was his children’s primary caregiver before he was deported and has not been charged with neglect, the child welfare department nonetheless believes that his children, who have now been in foster care for over a year, are better off in the care of strangers than in Mexico with their father.


For Montes, this feels tantamount to kidnapping.

“I cannot find the words to tell you how important my kids are to me. I would do anything for them,” he told Colorlines.com, speaking on his cell phone in Mexico while on a break from his job at a farm.

“In this world there are many injustices. At the very least, I would like them to send my kids to Mexico."

Read the full Color Lines report on the growing number of children who have been stolen from their immigrant parents and put up for adoption, which I blogged here.
http://reason.com/blog/2012/02/15/the-most-vile-and-inhumane-immigration-s

First, the guy is a piece of shit for not having a driver's license OR insurance. That is no grounds to take away a guy's kids and put them up for adoption. These are American children we are talking about. The only reason that the mother couldn't afford to support her children is because THEY deported their father. That is fucked up.
 

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Felipe Montes lived (illegally) and worked (illegally) in the United States for nine years. During that time, he held a full-time job (illegally) , paid his bills, and fathered two children with his wife, Marie. He failed, however, to pay several traffic tickets (illegally) , or to acquire a driver's license (illegally) or car insurance (illegally). As a result, a 2010 traffic stop ended with Montes being taken to a detention center where he was scheduled for deportation.
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First, the guy is a piece of shit for not having a driver's license OR insurance. That is no grounds to take away a guy's kids and put them up for adoption. These are American children we are talking about. The only reason that the mother couldn't afford to support her children is because THEY deported their father. That is fucked up.

That rule that if you're born on American soil makes you an American should be changed.

Any party that is illegally here should nullify the whole situation .
 
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God forbid he actually goes through the shenanigans/cost that are involved to legally immigrate here... wonder if he was paying state/federal taxes... methinks not as he wouldn't have a Social Security number.
 

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Scheduled for deportation? Maybe he shouldn't be A FELONY FUCKING INVADER SQUATTING OUT ANCHOR BABIES AND BREAKING TRAFFIC LAWS?!?!

Deportation is too good. Kill him. Start making examples of these fucking monumentally stupid and irresponsible invaders who feel entitled to The American Dream while committing crime the whole time.

Waah, wahh, enough of these bleeding heart pro amnesty no border articles about these invaders and their squat monster children. I don't care. Kill them.

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This is less about immigration and more about social services. It seems to me that if the mother has an alternative that will ensure the children's welfare, they shouldn't be given to adoption.
 

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Our immigration system sucks because this wetback was here for 9 years and 3 burdens before they got hold of him and tossed him back over the fence.
 

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This is less about immigration and more about social services. It seems to me that if the mother has an alternative that will ensure the children's welfare, they shouldn't be given to adoption.
Unfortunately the alternative would involve that word. Fuck 'em.
 

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No car insurance, license, not paying his traffic tickets. But he pays his bills....sure he does. Oh wait, car insurance and traffic citations are considered bills. I chased an illegal through Omaha for 10 minutes after he hit two pedestrians, killing one. He was drunk on top of it. I keep the tow trucks in business with the amount of cars I have towed with no registration, false tags, and no insurance.

Deport the whole lot of them, they can be a family in Mexico. Change the damn anchor baby law.
 

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Love how writers will push out specific spic stories every couple weeks to get white folk worked up and talking about 'illegals'! like it means anything in reality. On a side note, no one addressed gives a shit if you say illegal or spic or beaner or wetback. I'm a spic and consider myself a wetback or wetbag or whatever the fuck and I've never seen another spic get offended by that shit. The only time I've seen a beaner get offended by a word was for 'joto'. Guy walked into his house, brought out a wooden baseball bat and connected at this guys head 5 times while I watched as a kid in my bike. I thought one hit was enough but I guess the guy was really pissed.
 

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Love how writers will push out specific spic stories every couple weeks to get white folk worked up and talking about 'illegals'! like it means anything in reality. On a side note, no one addressed gives a shit if you say illegal or spic or beaner or wetback. I'm a spic and consider myself a wetback or wetbag or whatever the fuck and I've never seen another spic get offended by that shit. The only time I've seen a beaner get offended by a word was for 'joto'. Guy walked into his house, brought out a wooden baseball bat and connected at this guys head 5 times while I watched as a kid in my bike. I thought one hit was enough but I guess the guy was really pissed.
You mean stories where an illegal kills a family while drunk driving? As though a white American has never done the exact same thing.
 

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You mean stories where an illegal kills a family while drunk driving? As though a white American has never done the exact same thing.
Good point. It's bad enough we have to deal with drunks that are legal residence. I'm NOT for putting up a wall and telling everybody to keep the fuck out. I think the immigration process should be streamlined so people can come to this country to work and enjoy their lives. Come to America: work, play, behave and you will be appreciated for your contributions.

What they did to this guys family is deplorable. It signifies that the system is indeed not working.
 

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Good point. It's bad enough we have to deal with drunks that are legal residence. I'm NOT for putting up a wall and telling everybody to keep the fuck out. I think the immigration process should be streamlined so people can come to this country to work and enjoy their lives. Come to America: work, play, behave and you will be appreciated for your contributions.

What they did to this guys family is deplorable. It signifies that the system is indeed not working.
Holy shit, a positive comment in this thread!
I think the immigration process should be streamlined so people can come to this country to work and enjoy their lives.
I agree totally. Due to quotas etc, it is almost impossible for a Mexican to get a work visa and go the legal route. If there were cartels cutting off heads in your neighborhood, would you sit and wait on your immigration paperwork to go through or take your wife and kids to safety by any means possible? I hate that because a person is here illegally, we see nothing wrong with treating them like a sub-human. "He deserves whatever he gets" is a fucked up way to be toward a guy who may have only been trying to protect and provide for his family. We aren't talking about a child molester here, we are talking about someone who broke a law that didn't actually harm anyone.
 

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It should be a simple process. You come here as a candidate for citizenship. You work, stay out of trouble and take some civics classes and a few English as a second language classes. I always thought it should be a tiered system that doesn't cost a dime.

1. Apply for citizenship, take a test in your native language to see what type of work you might be capable of. Put in a fast late for people that can demonstrate basic English Speaking skills.
2. Upon approval you come to the United States as a citizen candidate. Work, play, pay your taxes and respect the laws of the United States and you can move on to the next tier.
3. After completing a set time of being a probationary citizen, if you have not broken any laws (other then traffic) and have taken a few classes on civics and a few English classes, your in. Done.

I have never advocated blocking anybody from coming to this country. Just BEHAVE!! Don't keep chickens in your kitchen. No slaughtering goats in the backyard. No burning your relatives on bonfires to ensure their passage into Valhalla. No marrying a goddamn 12 year old because that's how they do shit in your old hood back home. Behave!! We have enough problems with the shit heads that were born here. Why import more problems?!?!
 

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Our immigration system sucks because this wetback was here for 9 years and 3 burdens before they got hold of him and tossed him back over the fence.
True. Turning a blind eye to this shit is why it's gotten so bad in the 1st place.

I think the immigration process should be streamlined so people can come to this country to work and enjoy their lives. Come to America: work, play, behave and you will be appreciated for your contributions.
The sludge in our govt clogs up everything. Nothing is easy any more.

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What they did to this guys family is deplorable. It signifies that the system is indeed not working.
That I will agree on. There's better ways to handle this.
 

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You mean stories where an illegal kills a family while drunk driving? As though a white American has never done the exact same thing.
Haha yep. My dad only talked about white people one time. Told me whites had pillaged and stole the money of a large group of seasonal field workers cause they knew they wouldn't call the cops, think he said it was in Florida or some shit.

I personally haven't seen spics take advantage of the system, just the opposite. They are ashamed if they get any money they didn't earn and avoid using the system because of fear of being deported. Which is what happened with the guy that got his head smashed. People in the neighborhood didn't call the cops or bambulance and were afraid of retaliation from the guy if they tried anything. I just went back inside and watched The Simpsons and pretended nothing happened.

That's just what I've seen, I'm sure there's a lot of freeloading good fa nuthin' low down scoundrel illegal spics.
 

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It should be a simple process. You come here as a candidate for citizenship. You work, stay out of trouble and take some civics classes and a few English as a second language classes. I always thought it should be a tiered system that doesn't cost a dime.

1. Apply for citizenship, take a test in your native language to see what type of work you might be capable of. Put in a fast late for people that can demonstrate basic English Speaking skills.
2. Upon approval you come to the United States as a citizen candidate. Work, play, pay your taxes and respect the laws of the United States and you can move on to the next tier.
3. After completing a set time of being a probationary citizen, if you have not broken any laws (other then traffic) and have taken a few classes on civics and a few English classes, your in. Done.

I have never advocated blocking anybody from coming to this country. Just BEHAVE!! Don't keep chickens in your kitchen. No slaughtering goats in the backyard. No burning your relatives on bonfires to ensure their passage into Valhalla. No marrying a goddamn 12 year old because that's how they do shit in your old hood back home. Behave!! We have enough problems with the shit heads that were born here. Why import more problems?!?!
I think it should be easier than that. 1. Get rid of welfare system. 2. Apply for a visa/citizenship. 3. Government performs background check to make sure you are not an axe murderer. 4. You get approved and you come here and be a normal person just like everyone else.

Haha yep. My dad only talked about white people one time. Told me whites had pillaged and stole the money of a large group of seasonal field workers cause they knew they wouldn't call the cops, think he said it was in Florida or some shit.

I personally haven't seen spics take advantage of the system, just the opposite. They are ashamed if they get any money they didn't earn and avoid using the system because of fear of being deported. Which is what happened with the guy that got his head smashed. People in the neighborhood didn't call the cops or bambulance and were afraid of retaliation from the guy if they tried anything. I just went back inside and watched The Simpsons and pretended nothing happened.

That's just what I've seen, I'm sure there's a lot of freeloading good fa nuthin' low down scoundrel illegal spics.
No way, everyone knows that every immigrant only comes here to get on welfare. Oh, and white people are never on welfare.
 

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No way, everyone knows that every immigrant only comes here to get on welfare. Oh, and white people are never on welfare.
I will tell that to the sow breeders at the Starlite Trailer Park. The worst example of how white people can degenerate into animals when given handouts. Absolutely no reason to be white and on welfare in this country. Especially in a relatively affluent area of the state.
 

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hmm why do kids now think they are above working manual labor for 8 to 15 dollars an hour? Because Mommy and Daddy give them every thing why should they sweat let the fucking Mexicans do that work mom and dad is giving me money. so now we are suck with foreigners doing the jobs that teens and 20 year old used to do.
 

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I will tell that to the sow breeders at the Starlite Trailer Park. The worst example of how white people can degenerate into animals when given handouts. Absolutely no reason to be white and on welfare in this country. Especially in a relatively affluent area of the state.
SNAP (AKA Food Stamps) stats: 35% of participants are White; 22% are African-American, not Hispanic; 10% are Hispanic; 2% are Asian, 4% are Native American, and 19% are of unknown race or ethnicity.

TANF (AKA Welfare) stats:
 

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Deport the whole lot of them, they can be a family in Mexico. Change the damn anchor baby law.
The women are having babies as they cross the border...its a nightmare...
 

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Deport the whole lot of them, they can be a family in Mexico. Change the damn anchor baby law.
The women are having babies as they cross the border...its a nightmare...
Why? What does it hurt to have a Mexican with an American child?
 

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Why? What does it hurt to have a Mexican with an American child?
The "anchor baby" thing is just fucked up.

Come here legally and do what's necessary to gain citizenship.

We shouldn't be granting citizenship just because you popped
out a midget on our soil.
 
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