Discussion in 'Current Events' started by LiddyRules, Oct 3, 2007.
I was surprised when the government said that Blackwater is only used for protection and escort. I remember seeing a video of Blackwater snipers taking
out insurgents, which I have no problem with btw
although im all for the slaughter of the enemy, the "corporate" war that is being run over there is a bit disturbing.
From another article:
Translation: "Let's say holding them accountable threatens national security in some unspecified way, and hopefully everyone will back off. If we're lucky, nobody will notice that we didn't say how or why it threatened national security."
I read in the Raleigh News and Observer that on Christmas Eve, Blackwater had to sneak an employee out after drunkenly murdering a bodyguard to one of Iraq's Vice Presidents. Most of the contracts Blackwater won, they were the only bidder. Therefore, they have fucking idiots running around waving guns. The same article said that 90 percent of shootouts involving Blackwater employees, were STARTED by Blackwater employees.
Why shouldn't they be held accountable? We're trying to stabilize this place. Their job isn't to fight - their job is to protect. Fuck them.
since when are mercenaries called contractors ?
i do beleve that started in the early 80's in africa, i watched a special on PBS about some of the civil wars and how the governments there paid to have there wars fought because they couldn't get there own natives to fight, so they hired outside security company's to do it, now mercs in africa were nothing new but the way they were structured was.
what bothers me the most about this is the corporate involvement, why is the most powerful army in the world paying outside company's to handle things that they should be. well thats simple enough really, the army has to follow rules of engagement, out side security doesn't, if it weren't for the mercs i think our death toll would be higher, you know there running missions that we legally cant but must be done,
somehow this whole US government and blackwater situation reminds me of the romans when they paid savages to fight savages.
I always think of Hank Scorpio when I hear about the mercs!
love the hank
I've been having this discussion in a couple of my international affairs classes, and the CIA officer teaching one brought up the interesting fact that there are over 100,000+ contractors in Iraq right now, and that if they were pulled out, the entire effort would collapse. It's not just Blackwater, it's cooks, drivers, etc.
Shouldn't they be under the law of the country in which they are currently in?
My favorite thing about this:
"The White House referred questions to the Justice Department, which declined comment."
If that doesn't sum up this whole thing, I don't know what does.
I just want to know what happened to the DSS. (Diplomatic Security Service)
Good question. Those guys are top-notch.
Call me crazy, but I feel that contractors should be held up to the laws of the country they're contracted in. The Blackwater ops should stand trial in Iraq. Fair or not, the outcome might deter Blackwater from randomly killing unarmed civilians, unprovoked.
If Blackwater doesn't like it, don't do business in that country.
You can bet your ass that if one of us was to go to Baghdad and 'accidentally' kill a civilian, or 20, we wouldn't be put on a plane and flown home first class.
So, If one of our soldiers looks at a married woman the husband should shoot him? Under Iraqie law?
No thanks... we are governed by American laws abroad... that why theres embassys.
What is one suppose to do when the "bad" guys hide amongst innocent civilians, including children?
Leave No Witnesses
yep, if your going down for murder 1, then murder 100 is nothing, the out come is the same. black water is providing security for the Iraqi's because they cant trust there own people. the sooner the american public realizes what a cluster fuck this is the better
They really need to consider their options here. I mean, merchandising!! Who wouldn't want Blackwater action figures?
Wait, what were we talking about?
oh i would love to get a black water Tshirt
Come on!! Who wouldn't? I wonder if they make T-shirts in less-than-manly sizes?
The contractors shouldn't be actively seeking "Bad" guys. They're there to perform civilian jobs and to protect diplomats. If we're going to use them as soldiers (Which we are) then they need to be tried in a military court.
This isn't Lethal Weapon 2.. you can't just randomly go into some other country and kill civilians. If we're gonna "allow" for that to happen, then the contractors needed to be treated like Soldiers.
And don't make this out to be a pity party for these fucks. They make more in a month then some do in a year.