No surprise there. While I didn't vote for him and still won't, the pubs have once again failed to get a strong candidate to go against him.
Like it matters. No matter what side wins, unless you have a billion bucks nobody gives a shit about you in DC.
ITT: Poll done by Ron Paul pollster shows that Republicans would rather vote for Obama than anyone except Ron Paul. I wouldn't get excited yet, OAPC. This poll is shit.
Yeah, wish I had a buck for every time I saw that one. I've seen other polls showing strong Tea Party support for voting for Obama. As high as 30%. Don't discount that faction of conservatives that would rather see gridlock than having Mitt or Newt in there with a blank check on spending. Still think 20% might be a bit high, wouldn't be surprised if it turned out to be at least 10-15% though going by some of the comments around here.
I fucked up? http://www.ronpaul2012.com/2011/06/28/ron-paul-campaign-scoops-up-major-gop-pollster/ Idiots. Let's see how long it takes you all to admit you're wrong and I'm right. Again.
yep This poll is absolutley 100 percent horseshit. Republicans and a large number of independants will vote for whoever is the nominee even if they're not crazy about him. Obama is that alienating and infuriating.
Whatever. I did the voting thing, mostly out of curiosity. I see no practical reason to do that again.
I wasn't even the one saying it, I just thought it was funny seeing it again. I was even going to point out that even if the pollster worked for Rand it's still pretty safe to assume they'd be huge Ron Paul fans. And just because they're affiliated with a particular group doesn't necessarily make a poll like this inherently invalid. The left-leaning Public Policy Polling frequently scores better than other conservative-leaning polling groups, even when polling Republicans. You honestly don't think there's not any conservatives out there that would vote for Obama because of the gridlock factor?
This is Ron Paul we're talking about. His entire campaign is based around manipulating polls. Just look at any internet based poll he's a choice in. Republicans, yes. Conservatives, NO. No conservative would EVER vote for Obama.
I remember Republicans saying that shit before the last election. Most people are just talk. They'll either vote repub or not at all. No one will vote for Obama to protest the fact that Romney isn't conservative enough. That's just stupid. It's one thing to say: "I'd rather vote for Obama than Romney," but actually doing it is a whole other story.
EVERY internet poll is a crock of shit. Republicans yes? So now you're saying the poll is valid? "whaa" Found another one here though. 11% of people that identified themselves as Tea Partiers would vote for Obama over Romney. Taken just this week. By Fox News so you know it's Fair and Balanced®. :icon_cool That's the problem with people like you. You see EVERYTHING in simple terms of black and white when the world is anything but.
Around 9% of registered Republicans voted Obama in 2008...and this was during a period where the tone of the country was pretty anti-Republican...now you actually expect more than double the amount will vote for Obama in 2012? Wow.
Still waiting for you to admit you were wrong. And the problem with you is that you think all Republicans are conservative, or that conservatives that claim they'd vote for Obama over Romney would actually do something so monumentally stupid. That portion of the electorate will just stay at home on election day, or do the right thing and swallow their pride and vote the organizer in chief out, even if that means electing a guy that's not their favorite.
I'm not wrong, I never said anything, just laughed at you being pointed out for being wrong again around here by someone that's not a flaming liberal. I did agree and say you were right though. So you're just going to shit on every poll that doesn't fit in line with your narrow minded view of the world? Sounds par for the course. There's guys around here that openly talk about voting for Johnson (and I believe them) because of the "send a message" vote, or because of conscious, even though it would mean four more years of Obama, not everyone thinks like you. This just in: DTR Polling, Inc. says 100% of conservatards think that Apple makes more money off music than computers.
There is a big difference between conservatives and Republicans though. There are Independents that consider themselves conservative and we know Obama scored big with them in 2008...and doesn't fit the "20% of Republicans might vote Obama" topic of this thread. If you're talking conservatives...then it's entirely possible 10%-20% of conservatives voted Obama in 2008. It will still be much lower in 2012...really low if a third party candidate runs.