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  1. SKEPTIC

    SKEPTIC Those who believe in telekinetics, raise my hand.

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    In light of Sandy (that bitch!) . . . What preparations are you making for emergencies?

    In the Sandy thread there was some good discussion about reasonable prep for emergencies. We can continue the discussion here.

    whiskeyguy, THP, et al. could you repost your comments re: emergency prep from that thread here? I'm posting from my phone & my copypasta skills are severely limited.
     
  2. d0uche_n0zzle

    d0uche_n0zzle **Negative_Creep**

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    I'll be looking to purchase another Yamaha 2000iS and mating kit. More gasoline storage, too.

    Beef up my windows with security film. Re-enforce the doors and have cord pass through cut outs put in.
     
  3. MayrMeninoCrash

    MayrMeninoCrash Liberal Psycopath

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    After my first hurricane in Florida, we realized there is no such thing as having too much gas and propane on hand. I think we bought about 10-5 gal gas cans and filled them at the beginning of hurricane season. Also we realized that there was no such thing as too many extension cords. We always kept a good amount of nonperishable food on hand, and would plug the refrigerator as soon as power died. Water wasn't an issue since we had both city water and a well we could power up and draw from.

    Make sure your cars are filled up before a big storm as well. Worst case drive outside of the impact zone. A full tank of gas for someone in NYC would easily get them to Baltimore or Boston where there's no disruption to speak of.
     
  4. Creasy Bear

    Creasy Bear gorgeousness and gorgeousity made flesh
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    For starters...

    A Coleman liquid fuel camp stove(cheap- around 100 bucks)and a coupla cans of "white fuel"...

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    As long as you don't open the can, the white fuel has a crazy long shelf life... like forever. They also have models that run on those little LP tanks.

    Another essential... a 55 gallon food grade plastic drum... store it empty in your basement/garage/shed, and fill it with water when there are reports of imminent shit fan hittage. 55 gallons of pure, clean water can be a valuable commodity.
     
  5. d0uche_n0zzle

    d0uche_n0zzle **Negative_Creep**

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    I have multiple methods for boiling water. The easiest and safest for urban dwellers would be an alcohol based hiking stove.

    You could make one if you're skilled. Denatured alcohol will keep for a long time (sealed) and it won't kill you with carbon monoxide.

    One example:
    http://www.backpackinglight.com/cgi-bin/backpackinglight/00065.html
     
  6. Creasy Bear

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    I like the Coleman backpacker stoves... you can get models that run on about anything... white fuel, kerosene... even gasoline...

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  7. DanaReevesLungs

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    Camping supplies are the best fucking thing. That stove THP posted is ideal. Also get cast iron pots and pans and keep them around. A trusty knife and rope are also good essentials to have and of course firearms. I had an uncle that would go fishing right before a hurricane, because that's when the fish were the most active. The low pressure brings them to the surface I think. Something like that.

    Clear visquine(sp?), a rock and any type of container will produce you potable water, so those are good to have if shit really hits the fan.

    I even have a DC powered fridge, but that's because I'm a truck driver. Those things really come in handy. A TV antenna so if cable goes out you can still watch the news while leaving the TV plugged into a generator.

    I go crazy when a hurricane is coming making sure I have all of my supplies with me to last at least a month. Girlfriend thought I was insane having 4 cases of water around during Isaac, but she never questioned it.
     
  8. MayrMeninoCrash

    MayrMeninoCrash Liberal Psycopath

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    It's also good to have a couple tarps on hand, and a chainsaw to help with recovery. These things become a commodity afterwards when everyone is looking for cleanup supplies.
     
  9. Dicktator

    Dicktator Frozen Meatbals 4life

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    Where do you get food grade 55 gallon drums? For emergency water you always have toilet tanks and hot water heater tank.

    I've taken a few steps for survival preparations. I have 3 months of can goods (high protein items, I own a restaurant and ordered by the case). I keep extra propane tanks for the grill for cooking food and boiling water. But this year I'm gonna get a little more serious. Im going to teach my wife how to use a hand gun and a shotgun.
     
  10. BCH

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    I have been in this house 20 years now and except for the time the entire eastern seaboard was blacked out, I've never lost power once, including this time. I have natural gas, municipal water and sewer. I also only have 2 trees, neither of which can fall on my house. Additionally, my basement has never flooded. I'm at 420 feet elevation and every direction moving away from my house goes down hill. My wife and I were chilling in the hot tub on tuesday night with cold beer. My preparations are basically buying extra beer. I need electricity for heat and hot water and I've got a generator that'll cover that and the fridge and TV/ONTs. I guess I may keep some more fuel on hand. I just hate getting stuck with it when the power doesn't go out, again.
     
  11. whiskeyguy

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    The most important thing to remember is FIFO (first in, first out). Pick a holiday every year (or every other year, like Memorial Day on even years) to replace your perishables. You can then eat the existing food (saving money) and don't have to worry about anything expiring. Replace everything that goes in/on your body or is "consumable" (food, water, fuel, soap etc). Also keep your supplies in airtight plastic containers, that are small enough to move by yourself (in case you have to evacuate).

    Water

    I prefer buying sealed water jugs from the store. Replace these with the food every year/every other year. Also have a purification method on hand... boiling is great but I would have a secondary purification method... either tablets (cheap) or a filtration pump ($60-$150). Purification is great for bacteria, but not necessarily pollutants, so keep that in mind.

    Food

    I really like Mountain House meals. They're high on calories and carbs, which is important in a disaster. They're also light and compact seeing as though they're dehydrated, and they actually taste good. They also last for 7+ years. The downside is they require around 2 cups of water for each meal, so if water isn't plentiful you have a problem. Same with ramen and cup of noodles. Canned foods are a lot heavier but can double as a source of water (as long as they're not loaded with salt like some beans).

    Cooking

    I agree with THP and others... camping stoves are great. I'd have one large one with a grill and burner, and a smaller backpacking stove. Also have a compact backpacking cooking set that you keep with the grill. All camp fuel canisters last for a significant amount of time... 3-4 should be plenty, but have a couple more if you anticipate boiling water.

    First Aid

    Buy a complete first aid kid with space to add supplies. Add basic medicine (advil, etc), but especially anti-diarrheal. Getting the shits happens more often when people are preparing food out of their comfort zone, and when the water is polluted... also it's a leading cause of dehydration, so this is important. Throw heavy duty latex gloves and surgical masks in there also.

    Misc

    Blankets, changes of clothes for everyone in the family, plastic garbage bags, duct & electrical tape, and zip ties... to name a few things. Put a sharp pocket knife and a lighter in every container.

    Have a go-bag in case you have to walk out. There are plenty of youtube videos on them.

    Know your disasters. If you're at a risk to flooding, keep the kit close to an exit and the stairs going to a second story. Earthquakes, keep it in a shed or close to an exit.

    Have ten gallons of fuel. If you run your cars on gasoline, get a gas generator. If you have a diesel truck, consider a diesel generator. Diesel is often easier to acquire in an emergency. I keep my car tank at least half full during the winter months.

    I'll post more later when I have some time.
     
  12. whiskeyguy

    whiskeyguy PR representative for Drunk Whiskeyguy.

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    Just another thought... try to get electronics (flashlights, radio, etc) that take the same size batteries.
     
  13. Ballbuster1

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    Yeah, I'm on high ground too. Flooding is never a problem and
    usually power outages are several hours max. I do have a portable
    propane camp stove and several cylinders of gas for it. Hot water
    is natural gas so no power isn't a problem either. Have a generator
    coming and some gas cans that I'll keep filled and rotate the gas out
    for the tractor and snow blower to keep it fresh.

    That's about it for us. We're never low on food cause the wife buys
    in bulk at Costco and always buys plenty of cases of water and
    powerade. Always keep a manual can opener on hand.

    Oh and there's no trees near the house. I have a chain saw and
    cut them all down years ago to widen my driveway.
     
  14. weeniewawa

    weeniewawa it's a man, baby!!!

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    rechargeable batteries and solar powered chargers for the batteries and cell phones

    they also make crank chargers like the crank to power radios which is another good item

    mosquito repellant

    buy stuff in bulk and get a Foodsaver vacuum machine and pack non perishables away. besides the emergency use, the dollar isn't getting any better and food prices are only going up.

    and for water storage, look on craigslist for food grade poly drums or totes that are new or were used for something like pastry filling that is easy to clean out and not bad for you.

    also getting devices like BBQs and generators that run on propane and stocking up on propane tanks since the gas needs not to be rotated or treated to last a long time
     
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    Motor Head HIGHWAY TRASH REMOVAL

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    Power -
    6500 watt generator
    (4) 55 gallon barrels of gasoline (only 1 is full, the others can be filled and back home within 20 minutes)
    (4) Propane tanks filled, plus a partial one I use on my BBQ grill
    I also keep fuel stablizer on hand.

    Water -
    (4) 55 gallon food grade barrels
    (1) water purifier

    Food -
    We can eat like pigs for months, or stretch it out for a couple years.


    Long term plan-
    Because I live in an area with close to 1M people within a 60 mile radius, I will abandon my home. I'm not much of a prepper and live close enough to town for the shaninigans to be at my door within a week or two from a total breakdown. My only real plan if the shit hits the fan is to load up my pickup with food, water, generator and extra gas and bug out to my brother in laws farm. It's remote, sits 5 miles off a small highway in Southwestern Iowa. Good land, lots of nearby water plus water wells, lots of critters to eat and my brother in law is knowledgeable about making moonshine, doing reloads and his wife is one hell of a cook and knows how to can food. The best part of this arrangement is most of his neighbors are capable of being self sufficient. The only worry would be mauraders, but after fuel supplies dry up they won't be very mobile.

    I guess the hardest part would be knowing when it's time to go. Face it, if a guy like me who is very dedicated to his job decides "I'm done", then shit has gotten bad. I will already have my family hiding out in Iowa. I figure when I'm down to a quarter tank of gas in my cruiser and there is no way of getting more gas without having to shoot somebody for it - I will call it quits and make a high speed burn for the farm. That's provided somebody hasn't popped a new asshole in my head of course.

    Nuclear war - We'd be dead, too close to air base.

    Epidemic - I'd be one of the first ones to get the cure if they have one. We would have to hole up, because there is no way we would be welcomed onto an extremely rural farm potentially exposing others in the area of catching the bug.

    EMP attack - Fucked, going back to the caveman days means I'm too far away from the farm to walk. Not sure how far I'm willing to go to survive. I will kill intruders of course, but I'm not sure I could stomach becoming a problem to others.

    Zombie type of epidemic - fuck y'all, I'm bugging out because I'm not hanging in an area where a potential of a half a million zombie mouths are gnashing their teeth. Take my chances at the farm, and be ready to hit the road The Walking Dead style.

    I do ponder one thing, a life without WB. Who would I say horrible things to? People with a horrific sense of humor are rare. No Opie & Anthony, with little Yimmy. Would you really not want to just burn all your shit down and gargle a shot gun blast?
     
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  18. d0uche_n0zzle

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    Weapons other than firearms. Cold Steel has some great, low cost, functional weapons.

    One of my favorites is the Indian War Club. Just red Loctite the steel insert and you'll have one of the best skull smashing weapons ever made.

    Another favorite is the Trench Hawk Axe (does double duty) as a rescue, or a self defense tool. Cold Steel also has a great line of walking sticks. Again, they are dual purpose items, IMO.
     
  19. MetalBender

    MetalBender I like fistables.

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    /\ yes, yes. a billy club, or knocker of some sort if you will.
     
  20. SKEPTIC

    SKEPTIC Those who believe in telekinetics, raise my hand.

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    will post more later . . . many good ideas in this thread.

    on this issue of dual functionality, i've got a 6 D battery maglite which in addition to providing a beam of light on the order of 1.21 gW (1.21 gigawatts!) of power, it also serves as a handy bone crusher.
     
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    Maglites are great if you need them to double as a weapon... however I've since turned to smaller AAA LED flashlights. They (and the batteries) weigh less which is good if you have to haul them somewhere, and they last an insane amount of time. I've found some great lights for backpacking that work in an emergency. A basic Petzl lightweight headlamp is great for working around the house, and this is probably my favorite flashlight for camping/emergencies:

    [​IMG]

    It's the Smith & Wesson Galaxy. I bought it off woot a while back for $15... it has solid and strobe light settings, the red filter is obviously for signalling or preserving night vision, while the clear filter actually displaces the beam like a lantern... you just clip it to something up high and it can light up most rooms pretty damn well. It takes 3 AAA batteries and I still haven't changed the original ones after at least 20 hours of on-time... plus it only weighs around 6 ounces.

    Of course you couldn't smash in the head of a zombie or "young person" with it.
     
  22. SKEPTIC

    SKEPTIC Those who believe in telekinetics, raise my hand.

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    The Clash: Should I stay or should I go?

    You kinda have to plan both . . . on getting the fuck out of Dodge & surviving where you are . . .depending on the situation

    Food

    Canned goods has been my usual option. Haven't done much w/the freeze died stuff due to the water problem (is there enough water?) but looking to solve that, which leads me to . . .

    Water

    guess I never really thought about 55 gal drum . . . except in the world of shock jockery, that is
    last year I Iooked into this new combo filter/purifier system for home & portable for vehicle but didn't pull the trigger on it. This year I'm going to probably get both. which would then eliminate the need for boiling water, stove, fuel, etc.

    Cooking

    THP . . . talking about "white" fuel? That's racist! For shame!

    Lights

    whiskeyguy, I'll look into those smaller lights you mentioned.
     
  23. d0uche_n0zzle

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    Mountain House makes the best tasting, easiest to use dehydrated products, IMO. The hiking ones (usually two servings per pouch) are awesome for a BOB/GHB.

    All you need is a means for boiling water, fill the pouch, mix, seal for ten minutes. Then you're eating after it cools down, right out of the pouch.

    Another advantage to carrying an alcohol stove is you can pack a high proof vodka. Use it as fuel and get wasted, or trade it.

    The main reason for having a dual purpose items is the strict laws against anything 'hurtful' in most areas where things go tits up. You should be OK to pass through weapons check points with a means of protection.

    Hence, why I opt for a three D cell Maglite. Less likely going to get molested by a JBT for it.

    On a side note, titanium items tend to cost more, weigh less, and can be passed through most metal detectors unmolested.
     
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    SKEPTIC Those who believe in telekinetics, raise my hand.

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    yeah, definitely keeping the 6D maglite, but supplement it with some of this newer LED stuff. the longevity factor is impressive. Last year I picked up a 3D led maglite and 2AA (I think) mini led maglite set at Costco & keep 'em in my vehicle.
     
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    SKEPTIC Those who believe in telekinetics, raise my hand.

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    Communication

    I never gave up a landline phone and I have some backup phones which run on AA batteries. So even in a power outage I have a phone unless some sort of landline outage which I've never had.

    With the cell phone I have a handcrank battery charger which means I've got cell power & cell . . . as long as cell service is up, which, as we've seen here, isn't a given.
     

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