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Discussion in 'Current Events' started by Josh_R, Feb 14, 2012.

  1. Josh_R

    Josh_R Registered User

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    Has ANY drug use metric dropped by 50% in America since our War on Drugs began?
    http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkai...lization-drug-abuse-down-by-half-in-portugal/
     
  2. BIV

    BIV I'm Biv Dick Black, the Over Poster.

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    Well, no shit.
     
  3. Josh_R

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    American politicians apparently don't get the point as easily as you.
     
  4. BIV

    BIV I'm Biv Dick Black, the Over Poster.

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    They get it, they just don't care. Illegal drugs are too much a part of the system. To politicians, all politicians, the system is always good, even when it's bad.
     
  5. MayrMeninoCrash

    MayrMeninoCrash Liberal Psycopath

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    All it takes is one crackhead to kill a white family on their way to church and we would be right back at square one.
     
  6. THRILLHO

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    Law enforcement and prison industries will never let this kind of thing happen here. Too much money is made
     
  7. Josh_R

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    I would be alright with transferring all of their jobs over to treatment facilities and letting attrition reduce the cost and numbers.

    I wish this was true. There are plenty of people who don't want to hear any evidence, the just "know" that legalization will lead to 10 year olds shooting heroin and snorting meth.
     
  8. lajikal

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    Zero Tolerance! Were white PURE america. No one abuses drugs, legal or otherwise. Ok, maybe black people, but theyre not one of us. Were honest Jew ****** hatin' 'merica. Drugs are from Satan.
     
  9. lajikal

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    Very true.
    Drug war solution: Only go hard/ very heavy prosecutions, after violent drug organizations, traffickers, dealers, and purchasers of their products. That will force the others to tame down their operations' aggressiveness and violence or go out of business.

    But won't happen because money is no.1
     
  10. Josh_R

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    Umm, doesn't that pretty much cover everyone who uses drugs? You went from the drug organizations all the way down the chain to the purchaser.
     
  11. Mags

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    Yep our "war on drugs" was lost before it began. It's just a power and money grab.
     
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    "what's wrong wit da drugs we got?"

    My only guess as to why this won't work is that the government will fuck it up in terms of potency. People will always try for the harder and stronger shit. Plus the homegrown stuff will not have all the chemical additives that Monsanto and Phillip Morris put in.
     
  13. Creasy Bear

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    It's more about delusion than it is Big Prisons money machine and the The War on Drugs, Inc. maaaaaan!

    The Moral Oral zealots who put the draconian drug laws in place were 100% convinced that their way was the best way, and the ONLY WAY, to handle "the drug problem". They're just like(and most of them are the SAME people) who think that the best way, and the only way, to reduce or eliminate abortions is to overturn Roe V Wade and make abortion a crime. They don't think that because the want to cash in on the big business of abortion crime fighting and incarceration. What they do think is that they're on the side of the angels and they're battling Satan's abortion the PROPER AND RIGHTEOUS way. It's the same for the people who think they're battling Satan's drugs... they just REFUSE to even address the argument that while they may be morally right, realistically they are absolutely dead wrong and they're only going to make things worse and accomplish the exact opposite of their goals. Unfortunately, most of these people are so deeply entrenched in their self-righteous delusions that you'll never get them to see reason or face the harsh, simple truth.
     
  14. whiskeyguy

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    Your argument makes absolutely no sense seeing as though Obama is cracking down on not only criminal marijuana use but also medical marijuana use. Holder actually threatened state congressmen with criminal prosecution if they voted for the passage of medical/decriminalized marijuana. The moral conservatives aren't great when it comes to drugs, but right now the liberals aren't doing any better.
     
  15. Motor Head

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    Hmmm, I have never seen an entire family wiped out by a white drunk......oh wait, I have. A few times.
     
  16. Motor Head

    Motor Head HIGHWAY TRASH REMOVAL

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    Exactly how much power do you think law enforcement has over the law makers of this country?? There is a huge group of officers that are members of LEAP, an organization that wants draconian drug laws overturned. Despite the groups numbers, nobody gives a shit in DC.
     
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    I think it's a mistake to compare countries to each other. Portugal is like another planet. Very different culture, their economy is not as advanced and their legal system is probably very different too.
     
  18. Josh_R

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    There are multiple cases that we can study to see what happens when drug laws are repealed or lightened; the result is almost always the same. People don't flip out and start smoking crack and abandon their families just because they can. I agree that there are many differences in the U.S. and Portugal, but we have our own example of what happens when you prohibit a substance: it doesn't work.
     
  19. Stormrider666

    Stormrider666 Hell is home.

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    So your solution is for the country to continue the failed policy of the past 60 years.
     
  20. Creasy Bear

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    It's political pandering. No politician wants to be the guy who is too cowardly to fight The War on Drugs! Obama is pandering to people who are still clinging to the "Just Say No" and "Marijuana is a Gateway Drug" fairytales. At the end of the day Obama and all of his liberal cronies are nothing but politicians, and they're going to pander to whomever they need to to keep their asses in office
     
  21. Stormrider666

    Stormrider666 Hell is home.

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    Exactly. Could you imagine the ads if drug related crimes started going up while Obama was in office.

    Hell when Rand Paul was running for the Senate in Kentucky, his opponent tried to use his stance on legalization against him.
     
  22. whiskeyguy

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    I absolutely disagree. Obama is never going to win the votes of the moral right, they will always support the GOP... but he is alienating a lot of his base by fighting medical marijuana. It actually confuses the fuck out of me as to why he is doing this, because it seems like a political mistake. If nothing else it's going to make a lot of his base unmotivated to show up and vote.

    The social conservatives are losing steam... that's why the GOP has had a lot of libertarian-like influences lately. The left, however, is absolutely bent on controlling as much of our lives as possible.
     
  23. lajikal

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    Others, as in other organizations, etc.
     
  24. Josh_R

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    So by "purchaser" you didn't mean the guy who buys the drugs on the street for his own consumption. You mean other big organizations that buy from bigger operations? I get it.
     
  25. lajikal

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    The actual point there was that law enforcement is a revenue mechanism for the govt. so it would be unbeneficial in local/state govt. eyes to cut off one of it's main sources. Seizures, fines, etc.

    No, we mainly just go after easy prey and in addition after years and millions spent maybe we catch one big fish because the govt. has a big net instead of just focusing on the main problem. It's a compromise no is willing to make, cause it's 'merica and were never wrong.
     

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