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Randy "Duke" Cunningham pleads for return of gun rights from prison

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by MayrMeninoCrash, May 27, 2012.

  1. MayrMeninoCrash

    MayrMeninoCrash Liberal Psycopath

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    Anyone willing to place bets on Duke getting special dispensation here?

    http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2012/may/26/prison-cunningham-pleads-his-gun-rights/

    I do find it remarkable that the BATF hasn't performed a single background check to investigate restoring a felon's rights since 1992.
     
  2. gleet

    gleet What's black and white and red all over?

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    Do the crime, do the time. Then your debt is paid and you should have a clean slate. Otherwise, why do the time?
     
  3. MayrMeninoCrash

    MayrMeninoCrash Liberal Psycopath

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    Loss of gun rights (and voting rights and other obligations associated with convicted felons) should serve as a deterrent to crime. Not to mention, Cunningham knew all of this when he took his plea bargain. He could've fought the charges in court if he didn't like the consequences (or not committed the crime, but that's probably expecting too much).
     
  4. Hate & Discontent

    Hate & Discontent Yo, homie. Is that my briefcase?

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    The ATF has had their budget ***** pretty hard for quite a while. It's part of the reason NFA paperwork wait times are averaging 6+ months now. There simply aren't enough inspectors to keep up with the demand.
     
  5. mascan42

    mascan42 Registered User

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    The fuck? Somebody on Wackbag just defended the ATF. Also, I just saw this outside my window:
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  6. Hate & Discontent

    Hate & Discontent Yo, homie. Is that my briefcase?

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    More like someone bitched about the ATF's lack of budget fucking with their plans to buy a suppressor.

    When I built my short-barreled rifle, average wait was 3-4 months. I got lucky and had mine approved in 59 days. Now, 18 months later, the average is 5-7 months for approval. I think the ATF has lost 4-6 inspectors in that time, and either doesn't have the budget, isn't allowed to, or refuses to hire replacements, so the pool of people that can handle the paperwork is slowly shrinking.
     
  7. mascan42

    mascan42 Registered User

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    True. If you're going to have an oppressive bureaucracy, it should at least be well-funded.
     
  8. d0uche_n0zzle

    d0uche_n0zzle **Negative_Creep**

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    De-fund all the alphabets.
     
  9. Hate & Discontent

    Hate & Discontent Yo, homie. Is that my briefcase?

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    Fixed your post.

    If they did, then the Treasury department would take over NFA processing again. I get the feeling it would be even worse in their hands than it is now.
     
  10. gleet

    gleet What's black and white and red all over?

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    I was talking with a manufacturer last month and her agent had a full desk plus 11 boxes of Class III applications on the floor of her office.
     
  11. Hate & Discontent

    Hate & Discontent Yo, homie. Is that my briefcase?

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    Even the transfer times for dealers are getting worse. Used to be a week, now its 2-3 weeks in many cases. I think some for the local shop have even taken a month to process.
     
  12. KRSOne

    KRSOne Registered User

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    Exactly.

    The prisons in this country do need to be changed so you aren't released until you are reformed, if you are a violent felon. You are going to get a gun rather its legal or illegal. But private prisons are a big business and they like to see returning customers.
     
  13. KRSOne

    KRSOne Registered User

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    You say that likes its the first time.
     
  14. d0uche_n0zzle

    d0uche_n0zzle **Negative_Creep**

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    Not in my perfect world. Shall NOT be infringed would be the law. Meaning all gun control would be flushed down the shitter.

    No more tax stamps needed. :icon_mrgr
     
  15. NuttyJim

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    How do you determine whether someone was truly rehabilitated or not? Most people choose to stay in jail or prison because they have it much better in there than on the streets. Plus with all of there boys in there it's like being home.
     
  16. Hate & Discontent

    Hate & Discontent Yo, homie. Is that my briefcase?

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    Good luck with that. I wouldn't mind the tax stamp process if they could A) streamline it, and B) repeal the (illegitimately passed) Hughes amendment.

    Yep. Some criminals commit another crime within hours or days of being released, just so they can go back.
     
  17. KRSOne

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    Education. look at the countries that have low return rates in their prisons and copy what they do.
     
  18. NuttyJim

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    I worked in a jail for 3 years. Dudes would get released on a Friday and are back Monday. When asked why they're back they say I get 3 hot meals, a bed, shower, tv, get to work out all day, hang with my boys. Its cool in the summer and warm in the winter. Way better than being on the street.
     
  19. the Streif

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    "Douche Nozzle for President" has a certain ring to it!! I like it!
     
  20. KRSOne

    KRSOne Registered User

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    Absolutely, which is why it needs to change but as long as government runs on fear and there is money in putting people in prison, things will stay the same.
     
  21. NuttyJim

    NuttyJim Registered User

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    Private Correctional Facilities there is money. Taxpayers pay for county jails and prisons. Federal Goverment pays county jails and prisons if they house federal inmates (most of which are INS detainees).

    If people feared jail or prison then they wouldn't commit crimes.
     
  22. KRSOne

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    Thats the problem, people think if prison is really bad the criminals will not commit crimes but it doesn't work like that in the real world. Countries with awful prisons have more prisoners and a bigger return rate. Countries like Norway have a low return rate and nice prisons.

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    The US is clearly doing something wrong and needs to take a lesson from countries like Norway. The problem is they don't want to reduce crime or prison population. It gives them too much control and they don't want to give that control up.
     
  23. d0uche_n0zzle

    d0uche_n0zzle **Negative_Creep**

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    Doubtful I could take the ass r@ping the press would surely give me.
     
  24. the Streif

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    Pshaw I say. You post on Wackbag, you can take an ass r@ping like a champ. Probably enjoy it too!:icon_mrgr
     
  25. d0uche_n0zzle

    d0uche_n0zzle **Negative_Creep**

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    All the misogynist and racist tripe would be a field day for headlines and non-stop articles.

    Sounds so appealing to a hermit.
     

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