Discussion in 'Current Events' started by patbattlefield, Aug 1, 2007.
So if we play our cd's at work, with people who are outside a direct circle of friends & family, does that mean ASCAP can come after us?
ASCAP is pushing the envelope on this one
yep. actuality if you read it a certain way, if your walking down the street with a boom box on your shoulder, ala 1985 they want you to pay.....
i really think in the end there going to fuck themselves, eventually some one is going to fight back and there going to lose then all hell is going to break loose it just cant come soon enough.
Get a crowd of deaf people to testify they were customers in the restaurant.
Now that people aren't buying CD's they are trying anything to recoup revenue.
So does this officially make the boombox illegal? How about blasting the car radio at tailgating parties?
Well actually it is. The music that you buy only pertains to a singular personal license for you to listen in your home.
Even if you have a local band and you do nothing but sing covers of bands while making money (like at a piano bar) then you're supposed to get a license for public performance.
No one does that, but if you ever had anyone from ASCAP, BMI or another licensing organization frequent the place then they can check to see if you have a license to be performing the songs you're playing and if you don't then you're going to be sued.
Like the grocery stores that have PA systems with music either have to buy an inhouse broadcast license or they will buy knock-off music because if they even just turned on XM radio or something in their store then they'd be in violation of public use of copyrighted material from XM.
But you can find plenty of bars or little stores that will do that exact thing. I've seen plenty of places around here that just play XM radio in their place.
It's a confusing and sticky area with lots of paperwork and check writing. But if you don't obtain a performance license then you open yourself to get fucked. That's why I can't just use any sort of music that I want to in my documentary films. I either have to get a composer to perform pieces for me for a few hundred dollars, or I can put basic music together myself, find unsigned musicians to allow me to use their music in exchange for crediting or I can call up BMI and pay them about $10,000-20,000 per song. Even a popular Beach Boys song for use in a film/commercial will run you about $20,000.
And depending on the application, you can use samples of music up to 00:20 worth under "free use." But you can still be taken to court over that nowadays even though you might be in the clear to use it, it will still cost you attorney and court costs if a record company gets a hair up it's ass.
I'm glad I took those media law courses
I think that XM has a business service where you pay a higher rate for license to play in public.