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Discussion in 'Current Events' started by moviemogul, Mar 18, 2012.

  1. moviemogul

    moviemogul Registered User

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    Original Story (NSFW tags for space)

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    http://www2.tbo.com/news/breaking-n...ally-for-black-teen-slain-in-sanfo-ar-382362/

    In all fairness the Watch person should've just called police. He definitely didn't have his life in danger. Just a nosy nelly trying to provide "justice"
     
  2. LiddyRules

    LiddyRules I'm Gonna Be The Bestest Pilot In The Whole Galaxy

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    So does any story explain why Zimmerman shot the kid? If the kid committed a crime, if the kid had a weapon? Because all I got from the first article is that he's obsessively trailing him around, and next thing you know, there's a scuffle.
     
  3. Your_Moms_Box

    Your_Moms_Box Free Shit / Socialism 2016

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    he should get 3/5'th of whatever the sentence is for voluntary manslaughter....
     
  4. Stormrider666

    Stormrider666 Hell is home.

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    The kid had a bag of candy that he was taking to his younger brother. Zimmerman said he shot the kid in "self defense".
     
  5. Ballbuster1

    Ballbuster1 In The Danger Zone...
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    I thought we covered this before here but I can't find it
    so maybe I just saw it in the paper or on the news.

    The kid didn't live there but was visiting relatives. Sounded to me
    like the town watch asshat was just over reacting and looking for
    a problem that didn't exist.

    The cops told him not to follow the kid and he did anyway.
    He's been in trouble before so I'm sure he's totally guilty
    but fuck reverand al and his race baiting horseshit.
    I wouldn't call the guy white.
     
  6. d0uche_n0zzle

    d0uche_n0zzle **Negative_Creep**

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    When you're in fear for your life. You'll shoot.
     
  7. THE FEZ MAN

    THE FEZ MAN as a matter of fact i dont have 5$

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    ive been half assed following this, first, FUCK reverend al, i hate to say it but i hope the guy gets off, if they prosecute him and win its a huge blow for the castle doctrine, it is a shame but you cant make a perfect omlet with out cracking a few eggs.

    the "kid" (17 isnt a kid, physically, maybe mentally) didn't live there, its obvious there was some kind of scuffle, and in my mind that is enough to be in fear of my life.
     
  8. LiddyRules

    LiddyRules I'm Gonna Be The Bestest Pilot In The Whole Galaxy

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    Has the castle doctrine been extended to mean an entire community? Like I said, the article doesn't explain what caused the guy to shoot or attack this kid. I don't even know if he entered a house.
     
  9. Norm Stansfield

    Norm Stansfield 私は亀が好きだ。

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    Jesus Fucking Christ, enough already. We get it. The Police and the justice system are omniscient, and no one ever gets away with a crime for lack of evidence. Unless the victim is black: then the entire fucking Universe conspires against black people as a whole, to help the jewey sounding latino get away with it.

    Meanwhile, this same group of people thinks OJ is innocent, even though the evidence against him was a million times more definitive than anything in this case, and the only reason why he got off was a technicality.
     
  10. Norm Stansfield

    Norm Stansfield 私は亀が好きだ。

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    If you're in the street, and some guy is an objective threat to your life, you can shoot him in self defense there as well. Without applying the castle doctrine.

    The castle doctrine means that if an intruder is in your home, his mere presence justifies lethal action. He doesn't even have to be threatening in any other way.

    In this case, the castle doctrine doesn't apply. If the cops find proof that young Treyvon wasn't a threat to the hispanic gentleman's life, then they can charge him. But they obviously don't have that proof, that's why they're not arresting him. Without that proof, his defense attorney can present a plausible scenario in which he acted in self defense. That's reasonable doubt, and an automatic acquittal. Charging the guy would be a waste of time and money, not to mention a violation of his civil rights.

    P.S. So it's more of a right to self defense case in general than a castle doctrine case. But it's just as important to make sure that the cops can only arrest the guy if they have solid evidence. Otherwise, it opens the door on all kinds of intimidation against people acting in self defense.
     
  11. THE FEZ MAN

    THE FEZ MAN as a matter of fact i dont have 5$

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    its a gated community, in my mind the entire community is the "castle" why else live in one?
     
  12. LiddyRules

    LiddyRules I'm Gonna Be The Bestest Pilot In The Whole Galaxy

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    That was my point.
     
  13. Motor Head

    Motor Head HIGHWAY TRASH REMOVAL

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    Triggy McTrigger Finger should have let the police handle it. It seems like every neighborhood watch has a "Dirty Harry" in it. As far as Reverend Al being involved, well of course. It's a gated community, meaning this Zimmerman guy is wealthy. It would be nice to know if a weapon was actually found. My best guess is that the shithead on neighborhood watch tried to apprehend this kid, the kid got scared because a stranger is fucking with him and for all he knows the guy is a creep. If I was 17 and some shithead came at me trying to grab me I'm going to scuffle to get away, probably through a couple fists.

    If this kid was unarmed, the fucking guy murdered him.
     
  14. MrAbovePar

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    This story is going crazy. It's essentially the flash mob mentality for the new age of racial activism.

    The facts of the case are fairly simple but confused due to the race angle.

    The youth went out that night to get some skittles and a drink. Zimmerman saw him on his way back home walking slowly down the street and thought it suspicious enough to call the police. The 911 operator does the usual and advises him not to follow Martin. Zimmerman hangs up the phone and confronts Martin. During the confrontation, they fight. At one point Martin did pin down Zimmerman and punch him in the face. However Zimmerman eventually pulled his gun out and shot Martin who then cried out for help.

    This isn't a great miscarriage of justice as Al is pushing it. It's race hustling as usual. It's a tragedy that it happened and Zimmerman probably did commit manslaughter but it takes weeks for cases like this to get traction. Especially when there's no witnesses to the entire event.
     
  15. kidconnor

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    From what I gather, from different stories, this guy is like a neighborhood watch. Don't know if there is a name attached to it or he just does it. Anyway he sees the kid and calls 911. 911 tells him to not leave the car and the police are coming. Kid must have made a turn or went somewhere he couldn't follow in the car so he gets out.

    At this point either the kid goes up to him or he goes up to the kid. A scuffle broke out. When the guy pulled his weapon out.. I have no idea. But he says the kid was on top of him when he did. He had grass stains on his shirt, a bloody nose, and blood on the back of his head.

    from what i read the kid was laying in a backyard or an alley. Did the kid start to run when he saw the gun? Did he start to run after and the guy pulled because he couldn't catch him? There is a tape of someone screaming help then a gunshot and silence.

    This is my guess, no facts involved just a guess. Guy sees kid walking calls police. Kid sees guy following him and gets annoyed. Guy gets out and kid asked him what the fuck his problem is and who the fuck is he. Guy asks the same thing... who the fuck are you and what are you doing here. Guy wants kid to wait until the police come. Kid says fuck you I aint waiting and guy grabs him. They fight and kid winds up getting the best of it. Guy pulls, kid says oh shit and starts running/screaming help. Guy shoots and thats that.

    Gated community, part of the board, or neighborhood watch don't mean shit. Don't stop me when you have no authority do do so. Don't grab or touch me. If you do and you start losing, unless you see a weapon in my hand, you can't shoot.

    He got out of the car.. don't start none won't be none.

    I keep reading about a "stand your ground" law. Is it seperate from the castle doctrine or does it stem from that?(if anyone know)..
     
  16. d0uche_n0zzle

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    In real America, the Stand Your Ground law means you do not have to retreat when faced with an evil doer.
     
  17. OccupyWackbag

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    What if they are not quite an evil doer yet? Say they only have hooligan status.
     
  18. fletcher

    fletcher Darkness always says hello.
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    OWB LlVES!!!
     
  19. OccupyWackbag

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    Yeah new job and no free time anymore. So back to the important stuff. Can I shoot hooligans or even rabble rousers if they're are all up in my shit?
     
  20. fletcher

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    Just threaten them to up and up boxing matches. No need for useless weapon violence
     
  21. whiskeyguy

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    With true castle doctrine the act of trespassing is enough justification.

    In states like California they must pose a real threat and you can only answer with a reasonable escalation of violence for self defense. For example, I couldn't shoot a 90 pound girl with no weapon who was attacking me in my house, but I could shoot a 240 pound guy with a knife.
     
  22. Motor Head

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    Link - http://abcnews.go.com/US/neighborho...tin-wanted-cop/story?id=15949879#.T2Z5ohF8Abc

    So he is a wannabe cop and self appointed neighborhood watchman. At 28, if he wasn't already a cop he obviously had something wrong with him that kept him off the force. I hate Reverend Al, but it's bullshit that this guy hasn't been charged with something. He tried to grab an innocent kid, and likely started to get his ass beaten for it, then shot the kid after he started to lose the fight and was afraid of an ass beating or got enraged and shot the kid. Either way, he should be charged with a crime.
     
  23. mills

    mills I'll give em a state, a state of unconsciousness

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    Didn't see it on cnn's front page, which is fine by me.

    Give the guy the chair, string him up, whatever. Just don't bother me with Sharpton's dumb face.
     
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    This story is awful... Zimmerman, 28, was following Trevon, 17. The kid was 'slowly walking in the rain, with a hoodie on'. The HORROR!!!! Fuckin' asshole this guy is. The kid probably thought the guy was some sort of pedo and he RAN! If some Stubbly guy was following me around I'd of done the same thing.
     
  25. BIV

    BIV I'm Biv Dick Black, the Over Poster.

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    They never said what happened to Candy. Did he rape her or what?
     

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