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http://rawstory.com/news/afp/_Shoot_first_laws_make_it_tougher_f_10272007.html



'Shoot first' laws make it tougher for burglars in the United States
AFP
Published: Saturday October 27, 2007





Burglars in the United States could once sue homeowners if they were shot, but now a growing number of states have made it legal to shoot to kill when somebody breaks into a house.

John Woodson, 46, found that out last week when he ambled into Dennis Baker's open garage in a Dallas suburb. A surveillance video showed the robber strolling inside, hands in his pockets.

From the shadows, Baker opened fire and killed Woodson.

"I just had to protect myself and that was it," Baker told reporters despite the fact Woodson had not tried to enter the bedroom near the garage where Baker had been sleeping.

The incident made national headlines since it was Baker's parrot that gave the alarm when it innocently squawked "good morning" at the intruder.

But Woodson's death seemed anecdotal compared to another Dallas resident who a few days earlier had killed his second robber in three weeks inside his home.

Police are investigating both cases, but it is unlikely charges will be filed. Texas recently passed a law branding anybody breaking into a home or car as a real threat of injury or death to its occupants.

In contrast with traditional self-defense laws, this measure does not require that a person who opens fire on a burglar be able to prove that he or she was physically threatened, that force was used only as a last resort and that the victim had first tried to hide.

Florida was the first state to adopt in 2005 a law that was dubbed "Stand your ground" or "Shoot first."

But now they have proliferated largely under pressure from the powerful National Rifle Association (NRA), the main weapons lobby in the United States.

Today 19 out of 50 US states, mostly in the south and the central regions of the country, have this kind of laws, and similar legislation is pending in about a dozen others.

"This law will bring common-sense self-defense protections to law-abiding citizens," said Rachel Parsons, a spokesperson for the NRA.

"If someone is breaking into your home, it's obvious that they are not there to have dinner with you," she continued. "You do have a right to protect your belongings, your family and yourself.

"The law needs to be put on the side of the victim, and not on the side of the criminal, who is attacking the victim."

But for the Freedom States Alliance that fights against the proliferation of firearms in the United States, these new laws attach more value to threatened belongings than to the life of the thief and only serve to increase the number of people killed by firearms each year, which currently is estimated to stand at nearly 30,000.

"It's that whole Wild West mentality that is leading the country down a very dangerous path," said Sally Slovenski, executive director of the alliance.

"In any other country, something like the castle doctrine or stand-your-ground laws look like just absolute lunacy," she continued.

"And yet in this country, somehow it's been justified, and people just sort of have come to live with this, and they just don't see the outrage in this."

According to Federal Bureau of Investigation, there were 2.18 million burglaries to the United States in 2006, up 1.3 percent compared to the year before.

But the number is still well below the 3.24 million burglaries a year committed 20 years ago.
 

THE FEZ MAN

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"In any other country, something like the castle doctrine or stand-your-ground laws look like just absolute lunacy," she continued.

is is wrong for me to wish a home invasion involving negro's and **** on this cunt?

why do people refused to accept the FACT that the police are not in the business of protecting people, only the law. what is also sad is that if you were to beat someone to death that breaks into your house they can and will charge you, yet if you shoot them you can get off. the justice system in this country is fucked up
 

jackjack

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I agree the situation is fucked up, but it's nice to see it is trending towards the better side.
It's one of the few things that is.
 

Kris_LTRMa

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Since the majority of criminals are n**gers, when is the NAACP and Rev. Al going to come out and say that the "shoot first ask question later" policy is racist? And then the local bar associations (lawyers not drinking establishments) will join in because this is taking away a lot of their business.

I'm just sayin'...
 

THE FEZ MAN

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Since the majority of criminals are n**gers, when is the NAACP and Rev. Al going to come out and say that the "shoot first ask question later" policy is racist? And then the local bar associations (lawyers not drinking establishments) will join in because this is taking away a lot of their business.

I'm just sayin'...
ummmm, percapita whites are the majority of criminals, but you are right, its just a matter of time before uncle al and the good revrand try another gun grab
 

d0uche_n0zzle

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Meth being a huge problem in the midwest/western states, it's stoopid white trash stealing shit to support their junkie habit. The more that are killed during the commission of a crime, the better.
 

jackjack

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ummmm, percapita whites are the majority of criminals, but you are right, its just a matter of time before uncle al and the good revrand try another gun grab
If that is true, shouldn't the prison population be just as white as the un-imprisoned population?
 

THE FEZ MAN

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If that is true, shouldn't the prison population be just as white as the un-imprisoned population?
damn it, i hate having to research my bullshit statements; i need a microphone in front of me to prove im right:rolleyes:

um and im wrong

At yearend 2005 there were 3,145 black male sentenced prison inmates per 100,000 black males in the United States, compared to 1,244 Hispanic male inmates per 100,000 Hispanic males and 471 white male inmates per 100,000 white males.

http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/prisons.htm


were' all doomed
 

Balogny Tits

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"In any other country, something like the castle doctrine or stand-your-ground laws look like just absolute lunacy," she continued.

is is wrong for me to wish a home invasion involving negro's and **** on this cunt?

why do people refused to accept the FACT that the police are not in the business of protecting people, only the law. what is also sad is that if you were to beat someone to death that breaks into your house they can and will charge you, yet if you shoot them you can get off. the justice system in this country is fucked up
She is right that in any other country, this is absolute lunacy. The problem is not the fact that you can shoot someone who enters your house, but the fact that you can shoot them EVEN if you are not afraid for your safety. That is the lunacy.

And you are right, your country's justice system is fucked up.
 

brose

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She is right that in any other country, this is absolute lunacy. The problem is not the fact that you can shoot someone who enters your house, but the fact that you can shoot them EVEN if you are not afraid for your safety. That is the lunacy.

And you are right, your country's justice system is fucked up.
The real lunacy is having a law that says you have to flee your own home before you can defend yourself. Why should I have to leave my own home and let a criminal have his way? When you say "you can shoot them EVEN if you are not afraid for your safety", what thoughts are going through your head when a perfect stranger has broken into your home where your wife and kids sleep? If I am holed up in a bedroom alone in the house, I am probably going to stay there; I'm not quite brave enough to risk my own ass for a TV. But if I have kids in another room, I'm not gonna sit there and hope he doesn't do something to them.

But anyway, my point is if somebody has broken into your house you should automatically fear for your safety; I don't think he has to shoot first to establish that fact. He's not there to bring you cookies.