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SHOOTER AT MANDALAY BAY CASINO IN LAS VEGAS KILLS 59 AND HUNDREDS INJURED

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  1. mr. sin

    mr. sin Registered User

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    DA’s OFFICE: Vegas Sheriff is FBI Puppet Covering Up Evidence of Second Shooter in Las Vegas Investigation


    http://truepundit.com/das-office-ve...of-second-shooter-in-las-vegas-investigation/


    Clark County Sheriff Joe Lombardo is not telling the truth about the facts uncovered since the mass shooting in Las Vegas that killed 58 and wounded well over 500 people, according to a high-ranking insider from the Clark County District Attorney’s Office.

    “Lombardo is a politician and that is all he is,” the DA insider said. “He’s doing and saying what the FBI is telling him and the majority of it makes no sense to anyone who has conducted criminal investigations for any length of time.

    “You have to understand the FBI in Las Vegas only takes, they never give anything and this includes information. It is the same with the way they treat the DA’s office and Metro (Las Vegas Police).”


    Las Vegas is the county seat of Clark County. Its court system and law enforcement investigations are normally separate from federal court and the FBI.

    The DA insider said Aaron Rouse who heads the FBI in Las Vegas reports directly to FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe who is running point on the Las Vegas shooting probe. Rouse, who for years worked under McCabe in the Bureau’s Counterintelligence Division in D.C., was appointed to the Las Vegas post by ex-FBI director James Comey in 2016.

    According to the Las Vegas source, Rouse’s FBI has discounted most of the intelligence and evidence found by investigators outside the bureau, including LVMPD as well as solid evidence pinpointed by investigators working with the county DA’s office.


    Some of this evidence deals with forensic proof that a second shooter may have opened fire on the concert goers, the law enforcement source said.

    When pressed for details on what specifically Lombardo and the FBI are covering up, the DA insider said local investigators, as well as retired law enforcement officers who have volunteered their expertise since the shootings, uncovered fairly impressive forensic evidence that an additional shooter was likely firing from a location closer to the concert crowd than shooter Stephen Paddock’s deadly perch at the Mandalay Bay.

    Paddock, the DA insider said, was firing rounds from approximately 400 yards away from the concert from the 32nd floor on Mandalay Bay. The law enforcement source said investigators turned over proof to the FBI that a second shooter was firing from inside a perimeter of approximately 215 yards.


    Not only was that intelligence never shared with the public, the investigative leads garnered by Vegas-linked personnel have not been pursued by over 100 FBI agents working the Las Vegas investigation.

    The DA insider did not say there is definitively a second shooter but there is very strong evidence which points to that and it has been ignored by the FBI. Certain forensics, the source said, “don’t lie.”

    “To my knowledge, the FBI never searched the perimeter for (shell) casings or examined video from the limited number of businesses in that 200 to 235 yard area they were provided on a silver platter,” the sources said. “What you’re seeing instead is very political. This city will change forever because of this and the sheriff is playing politics.

    “He’ll probably run for Congress next.”

    Lombardo did not return requests for comment.
     
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  2. kidconnor

    kidconnor 55gallon hog

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    Forgot to hit post..

    I'm not arguing, simply posing a question(s). I wasn't picking a side although, admittedly, probably leaning a certain way.

    Compromising an investigation for one. Laying out how investigative procedures lead to certain info may give someone else ideas to avoid it for two.
    Legal... is there anything legal that says they have to release the info? Active or complete investigation?

    This is true.I didn't think of that before. Maybe because the one person, IMO, responsible is already dead. The brother did say he is giving some of the dead guys money to the victims. I can't see how the casino is liable or the city of Las Vegas and LVMPD. Unless they held onto the information that should have been reported to the police earlier. Otherwise settlements with payouts from the dead guys estate.



    The victims and families do deserve it due to the anguish they've suffered. It would give them a small amount of closure on something they may never recover from. Me, being the public? I'm not owed anything concerning this active investigation. Am I?


    Again I wasn't picking a side. Just changing the direction from the conspiracies and ... I asked first anyway.. Don't answer a question with a question. It's not polite.
     
  3. SKEPTIC

    SKEPTIC Those who believe in telekinetics, raise my hand.

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    Sure that's a valid argument for an active investigation. Once the investigation is completed, however, that argument doesn't support suppressing information. You can't compromise a completed investigation.

    In these kinds of cases the police department has to strike a balance between revealing too much information regarding investigative procedures and also providing information which is relevant to the public interest. I have no problem with that. It was your implication (by your line of questioning) that the investigation information should be suppressed that I found unusual. Suppression of information feeds the conspiracy mentality which it seems you are against.

    Yes, there is. It's called the public records act. Let's take Florida as an example, which had the Orlando nightclub shooting.

    Here's the law:

    http://www.leg.state.fl.us/Statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&URL=0100-0199/0119/0119.html

    Here's the link to the "Pulse Tragedy Public Records" by the City of Orlando

    http://www.cityoforlando.net/cityclerk/pulse-tragedy-public-records/

    Here's the (FDLE) Florida Department of Law Enforcement After Action Report

    http://www.mynews13.com/content/dam...s/2017/Orlando Shooting AAR_Redacted-fdle.pdf

    Which was released to the Orlando Sentinel pursuant to a public records request.

    http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news...-fdle-after-action-report-20170809-story.html

    As you can see in the report there were items blacked out which would have revealed too much information regarding investigative procedures.

    But the public was still able to learn much about the shooting and the police response, and what changes were recommended.


    Answering the question of whether the casino is liable is one of the reasons why there is an investigation and why the results of that investigation will be made public.

    Yes, you are.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_records
     
  4. KRSOne

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    Something more is going on. Either way I would think Mandalay Bay will be facing major lawsuits for not calling the police after their people are shot and shot at.
     
  5. THE FEZ MAN

    THE FEZ MAN as a matter of fact i dont have 5$

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    You do realize that none of those laws apply to active investigations or, cases that are still being reviewed buy grand juries?

    So yes, FOA does require that information be released to the public, but, not until the state is good and ready To do so, and, they can,at their discretion censor, that information.

    The blood is still in the field and the Internet sluths have already deemed it an FBI cover up of a false flag operation wth three shooters, Isis involvement, casino coverup MK Ultra, Manchurian candidate, chemtrails and fluoride in the water mass murder suicide pill, thermite paint conspiracy. I heard they found a copy of “catcher in the rye” also

    Instead of a rich guy that decided to shoot up a bunch of assholes in cowboy hats from his free high roller suite, because he was sick and tired of (insert batshit crazy reason to mow down people)
     
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    Someone broke into his home and no one knows why or what was taken? You have to admit this is all a perfect storm for conspiracy theories.
     
  7. domelogic

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    I found that to be extremely odd. This whole thing gets weirder by the day and yes it is ripe for conspiracy theories.
     
  8. Creasy Bear

    Creasy Bear gorgeousness and gorgeousity made flesh

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    Has there ever been a shooting that wasn't? Even when it was a cut-and-dried simple case of an aspergist stealing mom's guns and shooting up a school, you Kirktards still managed to make a conspiracy theory clusterfuck out of it.

    It's not like you tinfoil hatters even need any real butter to lube you up for your aspartame circlejerks... you're self-lubricating, and you make your own thermite grease.
     
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  9. Pigdango

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    Remember when the Batman movie predicted Sandy Hook? I remember.
     
  10. Floyd1977

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    There was never not going to be lawsuits. However, yes, these apparent lapses in security will very much weaken M.B. defense.
     
  11. SKEPTIC

    SKEPTIC Those who believe in telekinetics, raise my hand.

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    Did you even read what I posted? It's disingenuous to question me about active investigations when I specifically mentioned it my first response to kidconnor's "questions" and then mentioned the distinction between active and closed investigations again in my very next post.

    Here's the exchange again. Bolded and enlarged text for the reading challenged.

     
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  12. SKEPTIC

    SKEPTIC Those who believe in telekinetics, raise my hand.

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    Ugh. Go screw.
     
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    Didn't see anyone chewing on wheat. Dey wuz urban cowboys.

    If they were real cowboys they would've shot the perp with a revolver.
     
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    no, they would have shot the gun out of his hand..
     
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    Ayup.. they would've shot the big o' gun with a revolver.
     
  16. SKEPTIC

    SKEPTIC Those who believe in telekinetics, raise my hand.

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    The way I see it, the so called 9/11 "victims" were a bunch of asshole cityslickers who got what was coming to 'em.

    I would have shot those planes down on 9/11 with my trusty revolver.
     
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    THE FEZ MAN as a matter of fact i dont have 5$

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    Awww can you show me on the doll were the FBI agent touched you and lied about it?

    And yes, they were a gathering of assholes in cowboy hats, it it had been a rap show it would have been monkeys in hoodies, if it had been a phish show it would have been a bunch of stinky bearded Wookiee’s, if it was ICP it would have been retard juggaloos, and if it was Lilith it would have been a bunch of flannel wearing carpet munchers.
     
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  18. Creasy Bear

    Creasy Bear gorgeousness and gorgeousity made flesh

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    I heard that he had scoped out Hullabalooza in Chicago. It's pretty obvious that he wasn't targeting any sort of "demographic" to make any sort of political or social statement. He just wanted a target rich environment.

    Oh, and my kid was at that Lollapalooka concert in Chicago.

    It coulda been my spawn!
     
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    THE FEZ MAN as a matter of fact i dont have 5$

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    Buncha rich over privileged white kids
     
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    Both of em.
     
  21. SKEPTIC

    SKEPTIC Those who believe in telekinetics, raise my hand.

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    I've got nothing against LE, so you're barking up the wrong tree.
     
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    SKEPTIC Those who believe in telekinetics, raise my hand.

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    No one in this thread claimed he was targeting a "demographic."
     
  23. THE FEZ MAN

    THE FEZ MAN as a matter of fact i dont have 5$

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    I did, he doesn’t like cowboy hats, or trailer trash bitches in cowboy boots
     
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    Cellulite hangin’ outta trashy cutoff jean shorts...
     
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    THE FEZ MAN as a matter of fact i dont have 5$

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