Southern Baptist Convention: Same-Sex Marriage Not a Civil Rights Issue

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http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/06/18/southern-baptists-meet-during-challenging-times/

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Southern Baptists: Gay rights not civil rights
Published June 20, 2012 | Associated Press


NEW ORLEANS – A day after electing their first African-American president in a historic move that strives to erase its legacy of racism, Southern Baptists passed a resolution opposing the idea that same-sex marriage is a civil rights issue.

Thousands of delegates at the denomination's annual meeting in New Orleans on Wednesday were nearly unanimous in their support for the resolution that affirms their belief that marriage is "the exclusive union of one man and one woman" and that "all sexual behavior outside of marriage is sinful."

The nation's largest Protestant denomination is attempting to broaden its appeal beyond its traditional white Southern base. At the same time, leaders said they feel it is important to take a public stand on their opposition to same-sex marriage.

The resolution acknowledges that gays and lesbians sometimes experience "unique struggles" but declares that they lack the "distinguishing features of classes entitled to special protections."

"It is regrettable that homosexual rights activists and those who are promoting the recognition of 'same-sex marriage' have misappropriated the rhetoric of the Civil Rights Movement," the resolution states.

Another resolution passed on Wednesday is intended to protect religious liberty. It includes a call for the U.S. Justice Department to cease efforts to overturn the Defense of Marriage Act and for the Obama administration to ensure that military personnel and chaplains can freely express their religious convictions about homosexuality.

It also condemns the administration's mandate requiring religiously affiliated institutions, but not houses of worship, to provide contraceptive coverage for their employees.

Leaders of several other faiths and Christian denominations, especially Roman Catholics, have also organized and filed lawsuits against Obama administration policies that they see as threatening religious expression.

The Rev. Dwight McKissic, pastor of Cornerstone Baptist Church in Arlington, Texas, was one of the authors of the gay marriage resolution.

"It's important to sound the alarm again, because the culture is changing," he said in an interview after the vote.

McKissic, who is black, said it was "an unfair comparison" for gays to equate same-sex marriage with civil rights because there is not incontrovertible scientific evidence that homosexuality is an innate characteristic, like skin color.

"They're equating their sin with my skin," he said.

David W. Key Sr., director of Baptist Studies at Emory University's Candler School of Theology, said that as gays and lesbians become accepted in the larger American society, the Southern Baptist Convention is trying to separate itself from some of the more hateful rhetoric while still staying true to its beliefs.

The resolution includes a statement that the SBC stands against "any form or gay-bashing, whether disrespectful attitudes, hateful rhetoric, or hate-incited actions."

But even with those disclaimers, Key said statements like this could hurt evangelism because they are likely to be objectionable to many people who are "not necessarily affirming, but also not rejecting" of gay rights issues.

Key said the Southern Baptists have continued to be outspoken on issues regarding gays and lesbians where other denominations with similar beliefs have not made the same type of public statements. He noted the SBC's previous eight-year boycott of The Walt Disney Co. for its gay-friendly policies.

The civil rights resolution comes at the same time the 16-million strong Nashville-based denomination is taking stands in other areas that will help it reach out to new members.

The election of the Rev. Fred Luter Jr. on Tuesday as the first African American president of the SBC was hailed as historic by denomination leaders who see it as a sign that Southern Baptists have truly moved beyond a divisive racial past.

In a news conference after the vote, Luter said he doesn't think his election is some kind of token gesture.

"If we stop appointing African-Americans, Asians, Hispanics to leadership positions after this, we've failed," he said. "... I promise you I'm going to do all that I can to make sure this is not just a one-and-done deal."

Delegates to the annual meeting also voted to adopt an alternative name for churches that feel the "Southern Baptist" title could be a turn-off to potential believers.

Supporters of the optional name "Great Commission Baptists" argued it would help missionaries and church planters to reach more people for Christ.

And the Southern Baptists have been less provocative on gay issues than they once were. The denomination ended its Disney boycott in 2005 and this year, as outgoing President Bryant Wright passed the gavel to Luter, the new president asked about Wright's plans.

"I'm going to Disney World!" Wright said.
 

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So that means they'll all vote for Romney, right? Right? :icon_cool
 

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Probably stay home rather then vote for the Mormon
Hey, if they can say that Gay Rights aren't civil rights, they can also vote for a pro Gay Marriage guy just because he's black. Hypocrisy is convenient like that.
 

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McKissic, who is black, said it was "an unfair comparison" for gays to equate same-sex marriage with civil rights because there is not incontrovertible scientific evidence that homosexuality is an innate characteristic, like skin color.
So they count Michael Jackson as white I'm guessing? "whaa"
 

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So they count Michael Jackson as white I'm guessing? "whaa"
Who said that Civil Rights only pertain to things you have no control over? Are they saying that putting you in jail for being a baptist is not a civil rights violation because you don't HAVE to be A baptist?
 

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Who said that Civil Rights only pertain to things you have no control over? Are they saying that putting you in jail for being a baptist is not a civil rights violation because you don't HAVE to be A baptist?
Give them a break. It's not easy to twist the English language to fit your outdated belief system.
 

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Who said that Civil Rights only pertain to things you have no control over? Are they saying that putting you in jail for being a baptist is not a civil rights violation because you don't HAVE to be A baptist?
Dude, you're way out of line here. Everyone knows you're either born a Baptist or you're not.:action-sm

Yeah, these people are pretty much pieces of shit.
 
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Of course it's a civil rights issue although why any gays would want to subject themselves to this archaic legal union is something I'll never understand. They're plenty funner ways of losing half your shit.
 

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A conservative christian cousin of mine (with whom I have had many facebook arguments) gave me this gem: gays have the same rights as everyone else; everyone has the right to marry someone of the opposite sex.
 
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A conservative christian cousin of mine (with whom I have had many facebook arguments) gave me this gem: gays have the same rights as everyone else; everyone has the right to marry someone of the opposite sex.

Ask him "what if her pussy stinks?"







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The black churches also feel the same way, so you are racist if you disagree with them on gay marriage. I think most Christian denominations are on the same page with this one.


Why do you need to take 2 Baptists fishing with you? Cause if bring just one, he will drink all your beer. Zing!!!!
 

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Remember... The Bible's right, somebody's wrong. Romans one, twenty six and twenty seven; Ain't no homos gonna make it to Heaven.

Speaking of buy-bull thumping asshats... where did the Blurp go? Did he wrap his zoomy green retardmobile around a telephone pole?
 

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yea because churches know how gay people feel? Fuckin asstards speak for others when, they have no idea what they even are talking about.
 

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yea because churches know how gay people feel? Fuckin asstards speak for others when, they have no idea what they even are talking about.
They are not speaking for anyone else besides their group. Much like the same way the homo lobby does not speak for everyone. I enjoy a good Baptist bashing as much as the next fella, but this is not hardly news that a religious organization might not support something that goes against their belief system.
 

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i will respect their right to believe this shit when they start demanding that slavery be brought back since that is in the bible too.
You don't have to respect it at all. And disagreeing with gay marriage is not exclusively owned by religion. There are plenty of non believers that don't support it.
 

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There are plenty of non believers that don't support it.
I find that even stranger than the religious assholes not supporting it. Obviously, no one has to support it; I'm just curious as to what one's reason for opposing it is when it doesn't involve the deadbeat sky-dad.
 

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I find that even stranger than the religious assholes not supporting it. Obviously, no one has to support it; I'm just curious as to what one's reason for opposing is when it doesn't involve the deadbeat sky-dad.
Money.

I'm not sure exactly how, but I'm positive that married gay people will somehow cost me tax dollars.

I could really give a care about gay marriage, but if married fruits are going to cost me even one thin dime, then they can go jump in a lake... a gay lake. I pay enough taxes already... f them qweers. Figuratively... not f them literally... because that would be ghey.
 

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Southern Baptists = American Taliban
 

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Money.

I'm not sure exactly how, but I'm positive that married gay people will somehow cost me tax dollars.

I could really give a care about gay marriage, but if married fruits are going to cost me even one thin dime, then they can go jump in a lake... a gay lake.
Lake AIDS.