Steep toll hike possible for NJ-NY crossings, after next weeks state elections

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The Port Authority plans to seek a toll hike of at least $2 on its Hudson River crossings and an increase in PATH rail fares after next week's state legislative elections, The Star-Ledger has learned.

Current peak-hour tolls of $6 per vehicle at the George Washington Bridge and Lincoln and Holland tunnels are expected to jump to at least $8 early next year - the first hikes since 2000, according to officials who spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the sensitive nature of the subject.

While a toll and fare hike proposal likely will be presented at the Port Authority's Nov. 15 board meeting, the agency's leadership has not yet settled on the exact amount of the increases, the officials said.

They explained there are some within the agency who would like a $3 increase, while others want to limit the hike to $2 on the Hudson River crossings and the Staten Island bridges - the Outerbridge Crossing and the Goethels and Bayonne bridges. Tolls are charged only one way.

There also is talk of eliminating the $1 E-ZPass discount for drivers.

No decision has been reached on a PATH increase, though a 25- to 50-cent jump on the current $1.50 fare is being discussed, they said.

One scenario calls for raising the current $6 peak and $5 off-peak bridge and tunnel tolls to $8 and $7 respectively, with an additional $1 off if the agency decides to keep the E-ZPass discount. Under this scenario, the increase would raise about $275 million annually for the agency.

"We have stated, for nearly a year that to fund our 10-year capital program, including security costs that have risen by $400 million a year, the second Hudson River rail tunnel, completely replacing the PATH system, maintaining the bridges and tunnels and rebuilding the World Trade Center, eventually a toll increase will be necessary,'' said Marc La Vorgna, a spokesman for the Port Authority. "That position has not changed.''

La Vorgna declined to elaborate.
 
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Nothing new ever happens on the same budgets of the past. It would be entertaining to see some of these people balance a checkbook... or living on unemployment.

I dunno.. guess the upgrades and 'security' is necessary, but I just can't support it without seeing a bigger picture of finances.

Especially in NJ
 

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I have a question. Why don't they just increase it every year? Or if they don't want to deal with change, increase it $1 every 4 years. By the time this goes into effect, it will be almost 8 years & a $2 increase. At least then drivers will know it's coming and the PANYNJ will know what's going to happen.

If it would ease up rush hour just a little, I would also keep the EZ Pass $1 discount for off-peak only and try to get some cheap skates to get into NYC a little earlier/later.
 

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Having recently escaped from the rat race that is the NY metro area, I completely feel for you poor schmucks... another turn of the screw.

Let me explain this to the rest of the U.S... especially my new neighbors out here in the Midwest...

Yes... that is 8 fucking dollars... U.S. currency, not pesos... to drive your car over a fucking bridge or through a filthy tunnel! One way!

There already are $8 tolls on certain bridges in that area! It wouldn't surprise me if that toll went to $10. Re-goddamn-diculous.
 
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Guess I can't bitch that they increased the NH toll from a buck to a buck fifty...
 

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Having recently escaped from the rat race that is the NY metro area, I completely feel for you poor schmucks... another turn of the screw.

Let me explain this to the rest of the U.S... especially my new neighbors out here in the Midwest...

Yes... that is 8 fucking dollars... U.S. currency, not pesos... to drive your car over a fucking bridge or through a filthy tunnel! One way!

There already are $8 tolls on certain bridges in that area! It wouldn't surprise me if that toll went to $10. Re-goddamn-diculous.
Let me also clarify for your neighbors. That's $8 one way, BUT you don't have to pay on your way out of NYC. And yes, the joke about not paying to get into NJ (ie, who would want to) is old & hack.
 

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The bridges and tunnels have already been built. Why do the prices need to go up???

And the dollar savings for EZPass? Well, aren't the EZPass drivers NOT using one of those pretty well paid toll collectors, who also get health insurance and a pension?????
 
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The bridges and tunnels have already been built. Why do the prices need to go up???

And the dollar savings for EZPass? Well, aren't the EZPass drivers NOT using one of those pretty well paid toll collectors, who also get health insurance and a pension?????
exactly. I'd like to see a better explanation of how the current funds are used. We already have close to (if not) the highest crossing tolls in the nation.
 

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Add in the congestion fee that Bloomberg wants to put into place and it starts to add up.
And you're not safe if you don't drive in cause they plan on hiking subway, bus, PATH, Metro-North, and LIRR fares. Just not as much.
 

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The PA Turnpike is $155.00 for a fully loaded truck, and now they want to put tolls on I80, so there will be NO way across PA without paying huge tolls.

The NY/NJ bridges and tunnels are something like $33.00 for a 5 axle truck, for a one mile stretch. Fucking highway robbery.
 

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Cunt ass jizz mopping mother fucking cunts.
 

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exactly. I'd like to see a better explanation of how the current funds are used. We already have close to (if not) the highest crossing tolls in the nation.
I'm sure the majority of the funds go to pay the 6 figure salaries of the unionized thugs who sweep the tunnels out or some other such hogwash.
 

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I'm sure the majority of the funds go to pay the 6 figure salaries of the unionized thugs who sweep the tunnels out or some other such hogwash.
When I moved out to Indianapolis from Long Island, I was amazed to see the garbage trucks they have out here... they have this big robot arm that comes off the side of them that reaches out and grabs the can... or cans... it can actually get two at once... the thing picks up the cans, dumps them in the truck, and then sets the cans right back on the curb. One guy operates the whole arm contraption and drives the truck too. His feet never hit the ground, and he can do my whole block in like ten minutes. It's a slick operation.

The system seems like such a no-brainer, I wondered why New York still has the old system... A driver, and two African mombacks hanging off the back of the truck. Then I remembered... unions... why collect dues from one guy when you can collect from three? Anybody who tries to get those robot trucks on Long Island may as well just take a hammer and smash their own kneecaps... save Vinny Bagadoughnuts the trouble of making a house call.

Fucking crooked ass New York. So long, and good riddance.
 

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The bridges and tunnels have already been built. Why do the prices need to go up???

And the dollar savings for EZPass? Well, aren't the EZPass drivers NOT using one of those pretty well paid toll collectors, who also get health insurance and a pension?????
Maintenance & upkeep. If the GWB came crashing down it would be a hell of a lot worse than the collapse in Minnesota. And because the unions are no longer there to protect the workers but to extort those that hire them.
 

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UPDATE



Toll bump to be $2 for Hudson crossings

Wednesday, November 14, 2007

Motorists using the Hudson River and Staten Island crossings will see cash tolls rise to $8 from $6, with E-ZPass discounts available only during off-peak hours, transportation officials familiar with the increases said yesterday.

Base fares on the PATH rail system also will jump, to $2 per trip from $1.50, but riders will still be able to pay the current fare by purchasing a 20- or 40-ride ticket. PATH riders who buy those discount tickets now pay $1.20 per ride.

The toll and fare increases are part of finalized plans to be unveiled tomorrow by the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, according to the officials, who insisted on anonymity because the plan had not yet been presented publicly to the agency's board of commissioners. The monthly meeting is set for 2 p.m. tomorrow at the agency's Manhattan headquarters.

The planned increases are expected to take effect early next year, the officials said.

Port Authority officials had debated a $3 increase in bridge and tunnel cash tolls in recent weeks, but they settled on $2 and other adjustments in recent days. The details of the toll hike were first reported last night on The Star-Ledger's real-time news blog (nj.com/news).

The increases, which are subject to the consent of the governors of both states, will be the first on the agency's crossings and rail line since 2001.

Eliminating the $1 discount for E-ZPass users during rush hours will enable the Port Authority to tout the package as an increased incentive for reducing congestion at its most heavily traveled crossings, officials said. E-ZPass users who travel at non-peak hours will save $2 off the increase. Currently, there is only a $1 discount for E-ZPass off-peak travel.

Peak hours are 6-9 a.m. and 4-7 p.m. on weekdays and 12-8 p.m. on weekends.

Representatives of the Tri-State Transportation Campaign and the Regional Plan Association, two advocacy groups, had pressed for a larger differential than $1 between off-peak and peak tolls.


GOVERNORS' ACQUIESCENCE

The increase will apply to the Lincoln and Holland tunnels and the George Washington, Goethals and Bayonne bridges and the Outerbridge Crossing. In 2006, 127 million vehicles traveled eastbound on those spans and tunnels.

Information was unavailable about toll increases for trucks and buses.

Gov. Jon Corzine and New York Gov. Eliot Spitzer, who share joint oversight of the Port Authority and can veto any of its actions, are not objecting, according to the transportation officials.

Last week Corzine characterized toll hikes as necessary to maintain safety at the crossings, both in terms of structural integrity and thwarting terrorist attacks. "The world expects us to protect them on those bridges and tunnels," he said.

The Port Authority declined to issue a comment yesterday about the pending increases. Last month it signaled its intentions in a statement that said that because of its 10-year, long-term construction plan -- which includes building a second trans-Hudson River rail tunnel -- "eventually a toll increase will be necessary."

Other capital projects include redevelopment of the former World Trade Center site, and the takeover and expansion of Stewart International Airport in Newburgh, N.Y., as well as upgrading PATH line equipment and purchasing new rail cars.

Like other mass transit systems, PATH long has been a money loser. Last year, for example, the Port Authority posted a $187 million loss on PATH, which serves riders on about 227,000 daily trips and charges less than the current $2 base fare for the New York City subway.

Public hearings will be held on the proposed toll and fare increases, but no dates have yet been announced.