Syria: These Are the People the US Regime is Choosing to Support?

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Not only is the US throwing their support in the Syrian conflict to the side of the conflict led by elements of Al Qaeda -- you remember the Al Qaeda terrorists that the US has been trying to wipe off the face of the earth for the last 11 years; well we're now arming them with actual US approved weapons.

Here is a look at the handy work of the side of the Syrian conflict that cousin Barry Obama has decided to support:

Syrian terrorists behead Catholic priest accused of collaborating with the Assad regime
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/wor...ists-behead-catholic-priest-article-1.1387069

A Catholic priest has been publicly beheaded by Syrian terrorists after accusations of collaborating with President Bashar Assad's regime.

Franciscan Father Francois Murad was executed among two others in the countryside of Edlib in northern Syria Sunday before its filming was uploaded online.

The Vatican confirmed Murad's death Monday, declaring his martyrdom by the hands of Syrian jihadists after he was pulled from the convent for the Custody of the Holy Land where he had taken refuge.

The circumstances surrounding the 49-year-old priest's death are not entirely known.

Local sources told the Vatican the convent was ambushed by militants linked to the jihadi group, Jabhat al-Nusra.

In the extremely graphic video, a man identified as Murad is seen sitting cross-legged in the grass with his hands bound as a mob of men around him shout in Arabic.

Several are seen shamelessly holding up cameras to record the horrific killings, stepping as close as they can to the aftermath of bloody bodies.

"Lately, father Murad sent me some messages that clearly showed how conscious he was of living in a dangerous situation, and offered his life for peace in Syria and around the world," Archbishop Jacques Behnan Hindo, titular of the Syrian Catholic Archeparchy in Hassaké-Nisibis reported to Fides News Agency.

"The whole story of Christians in the Middle East is marked and made fruitful by the blood of the martyrs of many persecutions," he said.

According to the Vatican's press release, Murad traveled to the area after becoming an ordained priest to help construct a coenobitic monastery dedicated to St. Simon Stylites in the village of Gassanieh.

"After the start of the Civil War, the monastery of St. Simon had been bombed and Fr. Murad had moved to the convent of the Custody for safety reasons and to give support to the remaining few, along with another religious and nuns of the Rosary."

"Let us pray," wrote the Custody of the Holy Land Pierbattista Pizzaballa OFM, "so that this absurd and shameful war ends soon and that the people of Syria can go back to living a normal life.

"Unfortunately Syria has now become a battleground not only between Syrian forces, but also between Arab countries and the international community."

Jabhat al-Nusra has been identified as an Islamist terrorist organization by the U.S. government since 2011 while working in collaboration with al-Qaeda in Iraq.



From LiveLeak.com :
Syrian rebels beheads bishop François Murad

This video shows Syrian rebels slaughtering three people in the countryside of Edlib, including the Metropolitan “François Murad”, who was patron of Sumaan al-Amoudi Monastery, under the charge of dealing with the government and the Syrian Army;the video shows people who speak Arabic with a broken accent, saying that through this act, they are applying the law of God.

Warning - The video below shows Syrian rebels beheading Roman Catholic Bishop François Murad and is VERY GRAPHIC. This video is NOT suitable for all ages but presents a realistic account of an atrocity.


From the Fides News Agency (news agency of the Vatican)

On Sunday, June 23 the Syrian priest François Murad was killed in Gassanieh, in northern Syria, in the convent of the Custody of the Holy Land where he had taken refuge. This is confirmed by a statement of the Custos of the Holy Land sent to Fides Agency. The circumstances of the death are not fully understood.

According to local sources, the monastery where Fr. Murad was staying was attacked by militants linked to the jihadi group Jabhat al-Nusra.

Father François, 49, had taken the first steps in the religious life with the Franciscan Friars of the Custody of the Holy Land, and with them he continued to share close bonds of spiritual friendship. After being ordained a priest he had started the construction of a coenobitic monastery dedicated to St. Simon Stylites in the village of Gassanieh.After the start of the Civil War, the monastery of St. Simon had been bombed and Fr. Murad had moved to the convent of the Custody for safety reasons and to give support to the remaining few, along with another religious and nuns of the Rosary.

"Let us pray," writes the Custos of the Holy Land Pierbattista Pizzaballa OFM " so that this absurd and shameful war ends soon and that the people of Syria can go back to living a normal life." Archbishop Jacques Behnan Hindo, titular of the Syrian Catholic archeparchy in Hassaké-Nisibis reports to Fides: "The whole story of Christians in the Middle East is marked and made fruitful by the blood of the martyrs of many persecutions. Lately, father Murad sent me some messages that clearly showed how conscious he was of living in a dangerous situation, and offered his life for peace in Syria and around the world. " .

http://www.news.va/en/news/asiasyria-a-catholic-priest-killed-bishop-hindo-he
 

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I've been trying to find an article I recently read that shared excellent comparison of Obama's justification for his actions in Syria and Bush's justification for the invasion of Iraq because you'll be astounded at how similar they are -- the overall message is exactly the same but a few words have been changed.

If only someone would make a commercial with Obama's remarks against the invasion of Iraq and his justification for action in Syria...
 

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I'm amazed that the media is ignoring this. :rolleyes:
 

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I've been trying to find an article I recently read that shared excellent comparison of Obama's justification for his actions in Syria and Bush's justification for the invasion of Iraq because you'll be astounded at how similar they are -- the overall message is exactly the same but a few words have been changed.

If only someone would make a commercial with Obama's remarks against the invasion of Iraq and his justification for action in Syria...
Syria is one of the most secular, progressive states in the Arab world.

I'm pretty sure Syria the only Arab nation in which religious minorities have been living in peace free to practice their religion without fear of being butchered by Islamic thugs.

Well, up until now...

Up until American tax-dollars have been funneled to those who wish to establish a 13th century Sharia state much like Afghanistan under the Taliban.

It's ironic that Iran, Russia and China are supporting the civilized side of the conflict, and the US is doing everything they can to support the most savage scum imaginable.
 

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It's ironic that Iran, Russia and China are supporting the civilized side of the conflict, and the US is doing everything they can to support the most savage scum imaginable.
This is where Syria can become the type of event that can end an already diminishing world empire. The leaders of Russia and China are behaving in a logical manner-- recognizing that it is a civil war, noting that the government of Syria has not done anything to harm the government or citizens of their nations and finds no reason to intervene.

The humanitarian reasons, of alleged crime by the Assad regime, cited by the US regime as the reason for intervention in Syria are contradicted by the analysis of the United Nations Commission on Human Rights 13 June 2013 report.

I'd encourage folks to review this UN report which has been highlighted and notated by Adam Curry to highlight the inconsistencies in the Obama statements and the actual text of the UN report being cited by Barry Obama:
http://dropbox.curry.com/ShowNotesArchive/2013/06/NA-522-2013-06-16/Assets/Syria/UN on 93k.pdf
 

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I'm amazed that the media is ignoring this. :rolleyes:
Where is that Bill Donahue when there is finally something that is absolutely worth using his Catholic League soapbox to be outraged about?

Must make everyone feel all red, white and blue yay America knowing that the people who beheaded that Catholic Bishop have there USA Seal of Approval and support in this civil war.
 

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Not only is the US throwing their support in the Syrian conflict to the side of the conflict led by elements of Al Qaeda
Here's a list of Syrian opposition groups: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syrian_opposition

Are they all lead by elements of Al Qaeda? That's your story, and you're sticking to it, huh.
-- you remember the Al Qaeda terrorists that the US has been trying to wipe off the face of the earth for the last 11 years; well we're now arming them with actual US approved weapons.

Here is a look at the handy work of the side of the Syrian conflict that cousin Barry Obama has decided to support:
The US is NOT sending weapons to every rebel group in Syria. Only some of them. You're yet to prove that we're sending weapons to the group that beheaded this priest, for instance. I seriously doubt we are.

While I don't think we should get involved in Syria, the notion that this one group's actions are representative of all opposition to Assad is just retarded.
 

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The US is NOT sending weapons to every rebel group in Syria. Only some of them. You're yet to prove that we're sending weapons to the group that beheaded this priest, for instance. I seriously doubt we are.

While I don't think we should get involved in Syria, the notion that this one group's actions are representative of all opposition to Assad is just retarded.

True. If anything it indicates what a fucking mess that whole conflict is. Not exactly "The Rebels" vs. "The Empire." It's a bit of a free for all.
 

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The US is NOT sending weapons to every rebel group in Syria. Only some of them.
Ah...so we are only arming a faction of Al Qaeda. And not the entire thing. Thank the heavens for that wise decisions that our great Democratic overlords have made for us. It's not like Al Qaeda factions share weapons to allow dangerous weapons to proliferate. After all aren't these the same people that flew planes in the WTC towers and the Pentagon? I'm sure they'll obey their Washingtonian masters.

I mean it's not like when we armed thousands of Al Qaeda members in Libya they didn't just turn around and give those weapons to a group that would end up storming an embassy in Benghazi killing one of our ambassadors. No that never happened. That was because of YouTube. Some protest gone wrong or something. Those weapons weren't directly from the secret CIA facility that was dealing weapons to Al Qaeda from Benghazi to funnel them into the hands of Syrian Jihadists. I'm sure all of those weapons ended up in the responsible hands of Syrian Al Qaeda members and not in the hands of the Innocence of Muslims protestors.

And of course....when our government arms Mexican drug cartels there is total oversight with those weapons, right? It's not like any of the Fast and Furious arms were used to shoot up a wedding? Or none of the weapons were used to shoot up a middle school? None of those weapons were used to fire on and even kill our own U.S. border security agents?

Fact is that we are sending advanced military weapons to Al Qaeda.The same group that carried out the 9/11 attacks. And we are also arming the most violent and dangerous drug cartels right below our country in Mexico. There's no oversight or explanation to any of this. Talk about Fast and Furious and the CIA facility in Benghazi and you are called a lunatic.

Hail Obama.
 

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I love it when some people whose thoughts on the world haven't changed since VJ Day (which incidentally is the last time he got laid) feels the need to chime in with his view of the world and stubborn thought process that should remind everyone of the stereotypical grandfather who fears facts and gets belligerent if you challenge his only argument which amounts to nothing more than "because I said so."
 

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I love it when some people whose thoughts on the world haven't changed since VJ Day (which incidentally is the last time he got laid) feels the need to chime in with his view of the world and stubborn thought process that should remind everyone of the stereotypical grandfather who fears facts and gets belligerent if you challenge his only argument which amounts to nothing more than "because I said so."
You really think that line was worth using twice in two days?
 

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I'd love to know the real reasoning behind this.

Probably intel and also hedging their bets. Gambling on someone who may later be in power over there and feel gratitude towards the U.S., or even like he owes us his position. I just think we have a pretty shitty track record doing that. We can save our carrots for later. See what happens there, and if the results are to our liking we can say "you seem like reasonable people so lets talk business and money etc."
 

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Brilliant. Fact. Are you fucking kidding me? That's a fact?
a. You've been living under a rock
b. You're delusional and refuse to accept the facts right under your nose.

Which one is it?

I'm assuming the US supporting the overthrow of the Shah isn't "a fact" either.

Chill out grandpa, you're out of your element.

 
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Brilliant. Fact. Are you fucking kidding me? That's a fact?
On the record our government has admitted to giving Syrian rebels (aka Al Qaeda): automatic rifles, countless rounds of ammunition, light range mortars, and RPGs. That's just what they've admitted on the record. They kept the automatic weapons and other arms being run to the Mexican cartels a complete secret. You think they aren't doing things in secret?

Off the record to Al Qaeda we've run heavy weapons, explosives, high caliber automatics, and lots of other fun toys. Some of those RPGs and mortars we gave to Al Qaeda wound up blowing up an embassy in Benghazi. But don't tell the mainstream news media any of this. Dig into those extreme secretive and hard-to-find articles at such elusive outlets as the LA Times and NY Times to find all sorts of gems.

CIA operatives and U.S. special operations troops have been secretly training Syrian rebels with anti-tank and anti-aircraft weapons since late last year, months before President Obama approved plans to begin directly arming them, according to U.S. officials and rebel commanders.

...and...

With help from the C.I.A., Arab governments and Turkey have sharply increased their military aid to Syria’s opposition fighters in recent months, expanding a secret airlift of arms and equipment for the uprising against President Bashar al-Assad, according to air traffic data, interviews with officials in several countries and the accounts of rebel commanders.

The airlift, which began on a small scale in early 2012 and continued intermittently through last fall, expanded into a steady and much heavier flow late last year, the data shows.


Good. That's excellent. We are giving Al Qaeda anti-tank RPGs and surface-to-air anti-aircraft missiles. What could possibly go wrong? Are we blaming this on George Bush as well? Is this another conspiracy that only "teabaggers" and "morons" believe in.
 

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a. You've been living under a rock
b. You're delusional and refuse to accept the facts right under your nose.

Which one is it?

I'm assuming the US supporting the overthrow of the Shah isn't "a fact" either.

Chill out grandpa, you're out of your element.

He's trolling you. Haven't you figured that out yet?
 

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On the record our government has admitted to giving Syrian rebels (aka Al Qaeda)
Syrian rebels are not all Al Qaeda. That's retarded beyond belief. I just addressed this three posts up. That's retarded beyond belief. You're a delusional idiot, who buys into everything he reads on whatever conspiracy hole you climbed out of.

edit: Did I forget to mention that that's retarded beyond belief? It is.
 
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You're delusional and refuse to accept the facts right under your nose.
Great. Now we have three people who think that everyone in Syria is either a a member or Al Qaeda or a Bashar Al Assad supporter. Maybe it's time to stop being so nice about this, and bring out the cattle prod.
 

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Chill out grandpa, you're out of your element.
Holy shit, it's a clique of mongoloids, coming after me with the same bad insult over and over again. Except this one didn't do it right. You need to be pretentious about it, like your fake intellectual gay friend, and add words like "stereotypical" and "belligerent". Cause that's what really drives a joke home. Big words.

And they make you look smart. No one can see through that.
 

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Wait...wait wait wait...HOLD THE FUCK ON A MINUTE!

Wait...lemme get this straight...people are shitty? To each other?
 

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Setting the Record Straight Regarding Al-Qaeda in Syria


Analyst: Al Qaeda affiliate in Syria now best-equipped of the group


http://www.cnn.com/2013/06/17/world/meast/syria-civil-war

Al Qaeda's affiliate inside Syria is now the best-equipped arm of the terror group in existence today, according to informal assessments by U.S. and Middle East intelligence agencies, a private sector analyst directly familiar with the information told CNN.

Concern about the Syrian al Qaeda-affiliated group Jabhat al-Nusra, also known as the al-Nusra Front, is at an all-time high, according to the analyst, with as many as 10,000 fighters and supporters inside Syria. The United States has designated al-Nusra Front as a terrorist group with links to al Qaeda in Iraq.

That assessment is shared by some Middle Eastern intelligence agencies that have long believed the United States is underestimating the Sunni-backed al Qaeda movement in the country, according to a Middle East source. It is also believed that Iran is running training camps inside Syria for Hezbollah and that other Iranian militia fighters are coming into the country to fight for the regime.




Syria is jihad central: 6,000 terrorists flood new al Qaeda training ground

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news...tral-6000-terrorists-flood-new-al-q/?page=all

Thousands of foreign terrorists traveled to Syria over the past several months to wage jihad, or holy war, in what U.S. officials say is fast becoming a new international terror training ground.

Most of the foreign terrorists are fighting for the al Qaeda-linked group the al-Nusra Front and are coming from around the world, mainly from Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Libya, and Tunisia, by crossing the Syrian border with Turkey. The al-Nusra Front is the most well organized and ideologically motivated armed opposition group after the secular Free Syrian Army.
“The Syrian opposition is benefiting from a steady flow of foreign fighters who seem to be joining a variety of Islamist-oriented brigades or, on a smaller scale, starting up nationality-based units,” said one U.S. official familiar with internal reports on the region.

Bruce Riedel, a former CIA official and former staff member of the White House National Security Council, added: “Syria is the new epicenter for the global jihad with would be ‘martyrs’ arriving from across the Islamic world to fight Assad. They are getting experience in the terror arts they will bring home.”

Word of the growing foreign terrorist presence comes as a gruesome video surfaced over the past weekend showing Syrian rebels beheading three Christians, including a Catholic priest, in a public execution widely circulated on the Internet.

The Obama administration announced last month that it will begin sending arms to secular rebel groups fighting under the Free Syrian Army banner. Critics have warned that the covert U.S. support could end up bolstering al Qaeda forces in the region.

“The balance of power within the Syrian opposition between responsible forces and terrorists is already murky at best,” John Bolton, former U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations, told the Washington Free Beacon.

“If even more al Qaeda supporters are moving in, it raises the risks of supplying weapons even to ‘friendly’ opposition forces even higher,” he said.

The number of “martyrdom announcements” by jihadists in Syria indicates the influx of foreigners is increasing, said officials who spoke on condition of anonymity.

Officials familiar with reports of the foreign fighters said many of the jihadists are Sunni Muslims initially drawn to the conflict to help the Syrian people and oppose Shiites.











An Explanation of How the US Government is Arming Al Qaeda in Syria