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Tax penalty to hit nearly 6M uninsured people

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by BIV, Sep 20, 2012.

  1. BIV

    BIV I'm Biv Dick Black, the Over Poster.

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    http://news.yahoo.com/tax-penalty-hit-nearly-6m-uninsured-people-194442599.html?_esi=1

    Wow. Shocking.
     
  2. stevethrower

    stevethrower Got Sig?

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    Any penalties for all the illegals using the ER's for their regular medical care... oh wait...
     
  3. Begbie

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  4. MayrMeninoCrash

    MayrMeninoCrash Liberal Psycopath

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    Good. Stop freeloading off of us paying citizens. ER's really need to bar their doors until you can prove your ability to pay for treatment.
     
  5. MagicBob

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    so its a tax penalty, or buy insurance?

    how it that news? we knew about that when the bill was passed. Hell, we knew about that when Romney signed it into law in Mass.
     
  6. tysonpunchinguterus

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    Don't forget that it will also have the effect of raising insurance premiums for millions of Americans who do have insurance--unless the prices of things are no longer affected by demand.
     
  7. lajikal

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    That is bullshit that the rubes buy into. Please explain exactly how that is so and please put thought into it.
     
  8. Neon

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    I just sprained my irony muscle.
     
  9. whiskeyguy

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    That's why I really hate this "health reform"... almost everything that was addressed was regarding who pays for what, rather than actually making health care more affordable. This reform is going to end up costing Americans more money for the same health care than they were previously paying (considering indirect costs).

    Obama first said it absolutely wasn't a tax, but then SCOTUS stated the only way it was constitutional was if it were a tax, so now of course the administration calls it a tax.
     
  10. blazin

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    Does paying the fine give you coverage?
     
  11. Norm Stansfield

    Norm Stansfield 私は亀が好きだ。

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    They will. As soon soon as the scumbag politicians you elected get rid of the law that's forcing them to keep their doors wide open.
     
  12. Norm Stansfield

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    You want him to explain the law of supply and demand? Why not just look it up on wikipedia?
     
  13. lajikal

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    Are you a lawyer or politician? Spinners gonna spin.
     
  14. Norm Stansfield

    Norm Stansfield 私は亀が好きだ。

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    The law of supply and demand is spin now?
     
  15. MayrMeninoCrash

    MayrMeninoCrash Liberal Psycopath

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    That'll happen sometime around the year NEVER

    Could you hear the political ads now? "Senator Jones voted to require ER's to verify ability to pay for treatment! People will DIE on the steps of the hospital because of a misplaced insurance card!"
     
  16. OccupyWackbag

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    This country will collapse in on itself before we ever allow people deal with the consequences of their own actions.
     
  17. Norm Stansfield

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    You're missing the point. Repealing the Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act law would result in allowing hospitals to turn away non-paying customers, it wouldn't require them to do anything.
     
  18. tysonpunchinguterus

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    Have you ever taken an economics class or at least noticed that things get more expensive when demand increases? Add in the fact that demand is artificially inflated due to the tax penalty for not purchasing insurance and you remove the incenstive for insurance companies to not raise their prices since people will still need to purchase insurance anyway. How much more thought do you need put into that simple concept?
     
  19. MayrMeninoCrash

    MayrMeninoCrash Liberal Psycopath

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    You're missing the point that most campaign attack ads are hyperbole and not always indicative of the facts.
     
  20. tysonpunchinguterus

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    No, you get nothing for paying the fine except less money than you had before.
     
  21. Myhairygrundle

    Myhairygrundle Screw you guys, I'm going home.

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    *Insert montage of Obama saying that those who make less than 250k per year won't see their taxes go up*


    At least they are admitting it is a tax. Admission is the first step on the road to recovery.
     
  22. Lord Zero

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    How is fining people for not getting insurance supposed to help insure people who can't afford insurance?
     
  23. blazin

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    Really! Wow, Ive been debating with a friend of mine who is an Obama supporter. He thinks the fine is going to get him coverage, lol.

    I could have been in this pool of people, but after 10 years of going uninsured, I finally got myself a nice HMO plan last year.
     
  24. MagicBob

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    is that what happened in Mass.?
     
  25. Myhairygrundle

    Myhairygrundle Screw you guys, I'm going home.

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    Why don't you Google it and get back to us?
     

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