Tea party audience cheers letting the uninsured die

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The audience Monday night’s CNN Tea Party Express Republican primary debate was eager to see the death of a hypothetical man who was in a coma and also did not have health care insurance.
CNN’s Wolf Blitzer posed this question to Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul: “A healthy young, 30-year-old man has a good job, makes a good living but decides, ‘You know what? I’m not going to spend $200 or $300 a month on health insurance because I’m healthy, I don’t need it.’ But something terrible happens, all the sudden he needs it. What’s going to happen if he goes into a coma? Who pays for that?”
“What he should do is whatever he wants to do,” Paul replied. “That’s what freedom is all about, taking your own risks. This whole idea that you have to prepare to take care of everybody…”
“Are you saying society should just let him die?” Blitzer asked.
The audience responded with shouts of “Yes!”
“We’ve given up on this concept that we might take care of ourselves, assume responsibility for ourselves, our neighbors, our friends, our churches would do it,” Paul explained. “This is the reason the cost is so high… We have lack of competition. There’s no competition in medicine. Everybody’s protected by licensing ”

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So whats your point? I already know that liberals think that no one should have to pay for there irresponsibility and there should be no consequences. So what if I choose to not have insurance, I can just use the money of other hard working Americans and if you have a problem with that then YOU are the problem.



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Sometimes our decisions kill us. I work hard, pay for insurance, etc etc but if I walk against the "Don't Walk" signal and get ran over by a bus full of people being shipped in to vote for Obama:)action-sm), that is the consequence of my decision.

Dude should have paid for insurance. He was an adult, made an adult decision, paid an adult price. It's called personal responsibility.
 

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Can someone change the title of this thread to something more fucking honest like "Debate audience is sick of people like MagicBob trying to take their money"? Fucking leaches, the lot of you.
 

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Sometimes our decisions kill us. I work hard, pay for insurance, etc etc but if I walk against the "Don't Walk" signal and get ran over by a bus full of people being shipped in to vote for Obama:)action-sm), that is the consequence of my decision.

Dude should have paid for insurance. He was an adult, made an adult decision, paid an adult price. It's called personal responsibility.

so should ambulance crews do credit checks before transporting? No money to pay? screw you, you bleed out in the street at the scene of the accident. Is that how it should be?
 

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Can someone change the title of this thread to something more fucking honest like "Debate audience is sick of people like MagicBob trying to take their money"? Fucking leaches, the lot of you.
stop with the "people like you" crap. Drop the personal attacks Either speak to the subject at hand, or dont speak at all troll.
 

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stop with the personal attacks. Either speak to the subject at hand, or dont speak at all.
The subject is your thread is based on a false premise. The audience wants people like you to stop stealing their money because you need gubmint funded Viagra to plug your mother's stink hole.
 

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The subject is your thread is based on a false premise. The audience wants people like you to stop stealing their money because you need gubmint funded Viagra to plug your mother's stink hole.

nicely done, nothing but a personal attack. Perhaps worthy of a ban. We'll see.

So should ambulances do credit checks before treating?
 
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Sometimes our decisions kill us. I work hard, pay for insurance, etc etc but if I walk against the "Don't Walk" signal and get ran over by a bus full of people being shipped in to vote for Obama:)action-sm), that is the consequence of my decision.

Dude should have paid for insurance. He was an adult, made an adult decision, paid an adult price. It's called personal responsibility.
See this is just evil. Personal responsibility... that's some dangerous talk there buddy.

The problem is you have Liberals who feel that it is there responsibility to save everyone from themselves. All that does of course is create a society that can't handle consequences and becomes depended on govt support all at the cost of those who do work and live responsibly.

The fact that the problem in this story is not that the guy was irresponsible and stupid it's about being outraged that anyone could have the audacity to expect him to deal with the consequences of his actions just shows how fucking screwed we are as a nation.



This story is a perfect example.
 

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See this is just evil. Personal responsibility... that's some dangerous talk there buddy.

The problem is you have Liberals who feel that it is there responsibility to save everyone from themselves. All that does of course is create a society that can't handle consequences and becomes depended on govt support all at the cost of those who do work and live responsibly.

The fact that the problem in this story is not that the guy was irresponsible and stupid it's about being outraged that anyone could have the audacity to expect him to deal with the consequences of his actions just shows how fucking screwed we are as a nation.



This story is a perfect example.

so should ambulance crews do credit checks before transporting? No money to pay? screw you, you bleed out in the street at the scene of the accident. Is that how it should be?

its a simple question.
 

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So should ambulances do credit checks before treating?
Hopefully they check yours when you OD on amyl nitrate poppers before a big night on the town.

If you don't understand what the audience was advocating, you miss the entire point. Which I'm quite sure you do, anyway. You expect everything to be given to you.

Here's a fucking protip, junior: Anything that is given to you was taken (by force or coercion) from someone who actually fucking earned it. Grow the fuck up.
 

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So what your saying is a government requirement that hospitals treat someone that has no ability to pay is a socialist idea and greatly oversteps the roll of government?

is that the gist of your argument (minus the random personal bullshit attacks)?
 

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so should ambulance crews do credit checks before transporting? No money to pay? screw you, you bleed out in the street at the scene of the accident. Is that how it should be?
No, but further assistance is a separate issue. People use to buy insurance because they were scared of getting hurt or killed, now they spend that money on HDTVs and video game systems because someone else will always pay. The consequences must be there for the system to work.

Is it fair that I spend $100/month on insurance and have a $3,000 health savings account, yet someone in the exact financial position as me ignores their responsibilities yet expects the same level of medical care?
 
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If you don't understand what the audience was advocating, you miss the entire point. Which I'm quite sure you do, anyway. You expect everything to be given to you.

Here's a fucking protip, junior: Anything that is given to you was taken (by force or coercion) from someone who actually fucking earned it. Grow the fuck up.
:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:
 

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No, but further assistance is a separate issue. People use to buy insurance because they were scared of getting hurt or killed, now they spend that money on HDTVs and video game systems because someone else will always pay. The consequences must be there for the system to work.

Is it fair that I spend $100/month on insurance and have a $3,000 health savings account, yet someone in the exact financial position as me ignores their responsibilities yet expects the same level of medical care?
So the ambulance should scoop them up... and then what? at what point do you cut off medical care if there is no ability to pay? Do you let someone die because the cant pay? Do you save their life, but say...not set a broken bone? Where is the line?
 

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So what your saying is a government requirement that hospitals treat someone that has no ability to pay is a socialist idea and greatly oversteps the roll of government?
No, I'm saying that government requirement that hospitals treat someone that has no ability to pay is a socialist idea and greatly oversteps the role of government.

I'm sure no one ever told you this, but there were charity hospitals treating people before the government started forcing them to do so. Ever wonder why so many hospitals are named after saints? It wasn't because the founders liked football.
 

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No, I'm saying that government requirement that hospitals treat someone that has no ability to pay is a socialist idea and greatly oversteps the role of government.
huh, I wonder what socialist fuck that was trying to bring about the destruction of America through the unconstitutional expansion of the powers of the Federal Government singed that piece of shit law into the books?


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