Discussion in 'Current Events' started by Party Rooster, Jun 25, 2011.
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as they should be able to
If they were serious about using a Confederate flag on their plate and not about stirring up controversy, why not use the "Stars and Bars" Official Flag of the CSA?
I've lived in Texas my whole life and never really seen a single Confederate reference. Now, when I was in South Carolina, that shit was everywhere.
This sounds like a non-story that somehow made it to the media -- like a state senator proposed it as a joke or something and the media didn't get that it was a joke.
Just tie a ****** up to a truck. Stop with all the stickers, longhorns and other horseshit
I don't recall Texas, as a state, participating in the Civil War. With that said, Vidor is going to love this. The town has the largest KKK membership in all of Texas.
They were too busy revoking Eisenhower's citizenship
funny, i see this the day i find out my one black friend is moving to texas
Shhhhh it's a secret!
There are 15 new designs to choose from...this is just one of them. I say (as a Texan), let the people that want the confederate one have it. It's much easier when the a-holes identify themselves.
i bet whoever has this one is an asshole too
Lame sensational nonstory. The title makes it sound like the Texas is rebelling against the union by putting a confederate flag on the regular license plate... when its just a specialty plate that they know a lot of rednecks will buy so the state can get more revenue.
President Eisenhower's home state was Kansas
Just my $0.02 on the Confederate flag issue (which nobody on this thread really gives a fuck about):
In a vacuum, it is a reasonable expression of pride in heritage. The dudes who play Confederate troops in Civil War re-enactments aren't necessarily a bunch of racist assholes, so why should the Confederate flag be any different?
Because of history, that's why.
The Stars and Bars was effectively ignored for close to 100 years. Between the end of the Civil War in 1865 and the beginnings of the Civil Rights movement in the 50s, the Stars and Bars wasn't to be found anywhere outside of history books and Sons Of The Confederacy organizations (which weren't KKK-in-other-clothes organizations, though I won't vouch for the members' individual views on race).
The revival of the Stars and Bars (SaB) was decidedly tied to the Civil Rights movement. The SaB was adopted by the Klan and other organizations of the 50s and 60s specifically to fight the Civil Rights movement.
The modern SaB doesn't hearken to the Civil War: shit, it's not like Confederate troops in Texas flew the modern SaB anyway. The modern SaB is about the Civil Rights movement.
1) The confederacy was not just about slavery. People who immediately associate the flag with that are morons.
2) I would argue that the confederacy was closer to the intended form of government of our founders than our current bloated, all-encompassing, all-powerful federal government. We were in fact intended to be a fairly loose union of self-governing states, not a fucking empire very much like the one from which we rebelled.
3) Let fucking Texas support whatever heritage they want. The Indians pretty much lost a war here also and we don't go around making a big stink about them displaying symbols from their heritage above the urinals in their casinos.
Slavery existed under the Union flag a lot long than it existed under the Confederate flag
That's like justifying someone who flies the Nazi flag because "there's a lot more to the Nazi's than just the holocaust." There's no way to no way dissociate the confederate flag from slavery, just like there's no way to dissociate the nazi's from the holocaust...You should be able to speak your mind politically however you want...but if you go around flying a confederate flag on your truck don't be surprised if gets smashed up with a baseball bat or tagged with graffiti.
The federal government is out of control...no doubt, but I would say Vermont and Mississippi being a part of the same country still qualifies the US as "a fairly loose union"
The thing that cracks me up is that southerners are supposed to be these uber-patriotic folks yet they like to fly a flag that symbolizes seceding from the union.
Patriotism has nothing to do with Washington DC.
The country is not the government.
Rednecks gotta eat.
We just name some of the professional and collegiate sports teams after them and use caricatures to represent them. The Native Americans get plenty hot under the collar about that.
Except that no one here is talking about the Stars and Bars. That's the flag I posted above. The one on the plate, and the one most deeply tied to the Confederacy, is commonly known as the "Confederate Battle Flag".
If you're serious about doing things others want you to do, why don't you have sex with your mom? Is it because you don't want to? That's the same reason why these people are gonna use the flag they feel like fucking using.
I totally agree with this. I have said before that the flag itself, whether its the original battle flag or the modern one isn't offensive. The violent actions that were carried out while that flag was being waved are. So I have no problems with Civil War re-enactments or if the flag is being waved at a Lynyrd Skynyrd concert.
Having said that, lets stop trying to pretend that the Confederacy wasn't formed and the Civil War wasn't fought because of slavery. Did many of the soldiers fight for other reasons? Sure. But make no mistake about it, slavery was the main reason why the war happened. Lincoln may have started out saying that the war was being fought to preserve the Union. But he eventually realized that the war was one for emancipation.
To be honest, the more this issue keeps coming up about the confederate flag and how the war was fought for "states rights", makes me wish that Jefferson Davis and some of his cabinet members would have been tried and convicted for treason. The Civil War must be the only one where the losing side gets more celebrated than the winning one.
Then they can continue to look like ignorant racist assholes.
Long live the confederacah!