The armed forces want you!!...in Australia

BIV

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The Australian Defence force is trying to recruit laid-off soldiers, sailors and air crew from Britain, the US and other western countries in order to fill quotas.

The Australian reports (subscribers only) the navy has sent a delegation to Britain to discover how many retrenched sailors, particularly engineers, are available.
A report on maintenance in Australia's navy suggested that as many as 200 engineers are needed to rebuild lost expertise.
The paper reports the department also is looking for defence specialists, such as fighter pilots, submarine crews and officers and are offering fast-tracked Australian citizenship as an incentive.
Read more: http://www.news.com.au/national/def...as/story-e6frfkvr-1226230933982#ixzz1hkAuJ4Kd
 

BIV

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Love this from the comments section:

Professional Illnesses of ADF Posted at 12:21 PM Today

In my opinion, they want overseas people for another reason. Many of the employees they currently have are affected by the side effects of fluoridation and unsafe vaccines with the outcome that 25%-35% of them are psychos or depressed and 25% have chroric fatigue or cancer, thus, they periodically need new blood from overseas to temporarily increase their cost-efficiency.
Kirk?
 

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It's not that odd really. The Aussies, Canadians, Brits and New Zealand military often 'poach' service members from each others army/navy/af. I think there's some sort of agreement where you can tack up to x years of service on. For example if you spent 5 years as a para commo guy in the Brit Army you'd get 5 years applied to your Aussie service when you begin there and so on. What's odd is that they'd go after Americans, something I've not seen before.
 

LiddyRules

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Isn't this how Desmond made it to The Island?

Let me also throw in Gallipoli, Breaker Morant, and

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Good. I hope we see more of this, it would be nice to see good soldiers have some choices, instead of being stuck with just one option for a military career. Wanna send skilled, valuable soldiers on patrols in some Middle Eastern hellhole, to get blown up protecting civilians who hate them? Get ready to lose them as soon as their term is up.

But I doubt the US government will allow it, on any significant scale.
 

Norm Stansfield

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Illegals have no allegiance to the constitution.
United States Armed Forces oath of enlistment

"I, XXXXXXXXXX, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God."
 

BIV

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Illegals have no allegiance to the constitution.
Silliness, see above. I think military service should be pushed as a way to earn citizenship.
 

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Silliness, see above. I think military service should be pushed as a way to earn citizenship.
As someone who's never served, I'm all for the Heinlein "Starship Troopers" solution: you don't get to vote unless you serve. But only after you've already finished your term of enlistment. And you don't get your commission until after you've served at least a little while as enlisted.

It's insanely impractical and unrealistic, but I really like the idea.
 

LiddyRules

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As someone who's never served, I'm all for the Heinlein "Starship Troopers" solution: you don't get to vote unless you serve.
I don't vote anyway so deal.
 

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Good. I hope we see more of this, it would be nice to see good soldiers have some choices, instead of being stuck with just one option for a military career. Wanna send skilled, valuable soldiers on patrols in some Middle Eastern hellhole, to get blown up protecting civilians who hate them? Get ready to lose them as soon as their term is up.

But I doubt the US government will allow it, on any significant scale.
The Aussies aren't looking for IED fodder. The Aussie Navy is looking for personnel. Not too many submariners all bitter about being blown up in their convoys in Fallujah.
 

Norm Stansfield

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As someone who's never served, I'm all for the Heinlein "Starship Troopers" solution: you don't get to vote unless you serve. But only after you've already finished your term of enlistment. And you don't get your commission until after you've served at least a little while as enlisted.

It's insanely impractical and unrealistic, but I really like the idea.
I like it too, in the context of a major war, like in the novel. But in today's America, that would be a bit much. There should be some kind of criteria that limits who gets to vote, but soldiers should be just one of the categories that qualify automatically. There should also be others, like taxpayers who pay above a certain level, cops, reservists, maybe even land and home owners.

It just doesn't make sense to me to allow everyone to have a say on how the government is run and organized, just because they dropped out of a cunt within our borders. I never once heard a single logical argument for that. Every argument is against dictatorships, not for democracy. A limited republic where only those who earned it get to vote is not a dictatorship. In fact, as far as I can see, it has all the benefits of our current system without the big drawback of the retard vote affecting the outcome.
 

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The Aussies aren't looking for IED fodder. The Aussie Navy is looking for personnel. Not too many submariners all bitter about being blown up in their convoys in Fallujah.
True. But I bet they all have a friend or two who was blown up that way. Might be bitter about that, I know I would be.
 

jimmyslostchin

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True. But I bet they all have a friend or two who was blown up that way. Might be bitter about that, I know I would be.
Could be, but I think that might be a long shot too given who they're after. I don't know how the Navy is with promotions, but I think they'd rather go about it like they're doing it with England, and take sailors already slated to be laid off or downsized.
 

BIV

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I like it too, in the context of a major war, like in the novel. But in today's America, that would be a bit much. There should be some kind of criteria that limits who gets to vote, but soldiers should be just one of the categories that qualify automatically. There should also be others, like taxpayers who pay above a certain level, cops, reservists, maybe even land and home owners.

It just doesn't make sense to me to allow everyone to have a say on how the government is run and organized, just because they dropped out of a cunt within our borders. I never once heard a single logical argument for that. Every argument is against dictatorships, not for democracy. A limited republic where only those who earned it get to vote is not a dictatorship. In fact, as far as I can see, it has all the benefits of our current system without the big drawback of the retard vote affecting the outcome.
Add high school graduate too that list and I might agree.
 

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I don't like this. There is a reason that Australians are not joining their own military. Whatever that reason, it clearly shows that the people do not approve of their own defense forces. By recruiting foreigners, it allows the military to keep doing what the people disapprove of AND it forces them to pay for it. Imagine if the U.S. military recruiting dropped really low because no one wanted to join and go fight ANOTHER war. Now imagine the powers that be decide we just have to fight ANOTHER war, so they recruit foreigners to do it on our dime. Wouldn't that be swell?
 

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I don't like this. There is a reason that Australians are not joining their own military. Whatever that reason, it clearly shows that the people do not approve of their own defense forces. By recruiting foreigners, it allows the military to keep doing what the people disapprove of AND it forces them to pay for it. Imagine if the U.S. military recruiting dropped really low because no one wanted to join and go fight ANOTHER war. Now imagine the powers that be decide we just have to fight ANOTHER war, so they recruit foreigners to do it on our dime. Wouldn't that be swell?
That's not what's going on. The Australians aren't looking to take just ANYBODY into their military. They're specifically looking for skilled personnel... mainly engineers and pilots. Engineers because a boom in the mining business in Australia has attracted skilled engineers away from the military. And fighter pilots because training fighter pilots is a long and expensive process, and it just makes good economic sense to recruit already trained pilots who are sitting idle in places like Britain as a result of military manpower cuts.

This isn't the Aussie version of the French Foreign Legion... they aren't looking to skim the dregs of foreign societies for cannon fodder to fill gaps in their ranks. They are looking for skilled people to keep their standing forces battle efficient. It makes perfect economic and military readiness and efficiency sense.

No Alex Jones conspiracy theories required.
 

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That's not what's going on. The Australians aren't looking to take just ANYBODY into their military. They're specifically looking for skilled personnel... mainly engineers and pilots. Engineers because a boom in the mining business in Australia has attracted skilled engineers away from the military. And fighter pilots because training fighter pilots is a long and expensive process, and it just makes good economic sense to recruit already trained pilots who are sitting idle in places like Britain as a result of military manpower cuts.

This isn't the Aussie version of the French Foreign Legion... they aren't looking to skim the dregs of foreign societies for cannon fodder to fill gaps in their ranks. They are looking for skilled people to keep their standing forces battle efficient. It makes perfect economic and military readiness and efficiency sense.

No Alex Jones conspiracy theories required.
Ok, you may be correct there. I am not saying it is a big conspiracy, just that it could be a possibility that is not really that absurd and wouldn't even have to be covered up.