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The Big Science Fiction Recommendation Thread

Discussion in 'Books & Literature' started by NeonTaster, Sep 17, 2012.

  1. Jacuzzi Billy

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    You're an enigma. From the reviews, people loved Skippy. I didn't hate him but didn't love him either. I will agree that it is closer to Weir than Cline.
     
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    My issues were with the book itself, not just Skippy. My thoughts re: Skippy this point are that I knew something like Skippy was going to happen. Things were written into a corner early in such a way that only a bit of desu ex machina could have driven the story forward. While his personality is a bit heavy handed, I disapproved of the sloppy writing that lead to this point.
     
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    And when you introduce a character like Skippy it makes all other characters obsolete. Or it should. The author tries to make it work but fails imo. It's all sloppy.
     
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    Well it's really been a one man show thus far, so to speak. The author definitely opened up by giving Skippy to many powers straight out of the box though. It makes sense universe wise, but sometimes you need to have limits for the story's sake. That's part of why I enjoyed Commonwealth so much, it gave great resources to everyone then went into the detail of their implications and limitations.
     
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    Finished today. I'm looking forward to the next novel in the series.

    And your point about the balance is accurate, though I think a bit over stated. In quite a few areas it's just too much, but I think it's largely in line the rest of the novel's 'level of difficulty' so to speak. I think I'd probably like it less if the audio book wasn't so well done.

    Also, I think there's something to be said for a novel staring a generic military grunt with so little combat.
     
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    First off, your're still an enigma. Good point about there being little combat, I didn't really think of that. Probably for the best because I don't think that was the author's strength. I'm not sure what his strength was. I might give book 2 a few chapters to see if he tightens things up. Book 2 is out btw.
     
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    How so? I can look masterpieces as much as I like pew pew (even though this book had very little pew).

    I'd say his strength was how the story kept going. I never really thought like it was plodding along, and despite the atypical narrative, things never really felt like a waste. It felt like the characters and the world grew, even if it was comparatively simple growth. There has been zero character growth across every Kloos sequel.

    HIs biggest weakness is where he covers over something two or more times. He repeats himself quite a bit.

    Yeah, just saw that when I signed into Audible. Bobiverse book 2 is out today as well, so that's getting a listen first.

    I wish Columbus Day was out on paperback. Buying physical copies is the only way I can keep track of all the shit I've read.
     
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    I think you nailed his biggest strength. I'm not sure you're right about the biggest weakness but it was a problem, which is odd considering his biggest strength.

    You're an enigma because I can never figure out what you're going to like/dislike. For example, the Bobiverse??? Seriously? It's one of the books I was referring to when I said I hate the direction sci-fi is going. Having said that, I will admit I bailed on it quick and didn't give it a complete fair shot.
     
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    We are Legion (or whatever it was called) has an absolutely horrendous start. That first chapter where he goes to a con is some grade A Cline bullshit. It serves an important purpose but is terribly executed, specially with the references. Thankfully that the references drop down drastically after that and things really start to develop.

    The rest of the book is like a novelization of a space exploration game. It takes a pretty basic concept (self replicating exploration drones) and runs with it unlike anything else I've heard of. While there's some pew pew, it's nice to have a book that's more about exploration and development than space warfare. It's certainly not perfect and has some major flaws though. Namely the lack of a central plot. He also decries sci-fi programs that "hand wave" over fictional tech, only to do the same later. I'm really interested in the follow up to see what happens with the former concern.
     
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    As soon as I started, I couldn't get Cline out of my head. I'll give it another shot knowing it gets better.
     

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