Discussion in 'Current Events' started by BIV, Aug 7, 2013.
because not believing in a big invisible man is the problem
Especially when the enemy has a much stronger faith in their invisible man than we do.
i'd think when it comes to suicide, seeing your friends getting blown apart and then being dismissed by the government and being stigmatized for all of the civilian deaths by people is more of a problem than any religion.
Maybe they should worry more about the Muslim soldiers shooting up their co-workers.
"There are no atheists in foxholes."
- Some soldier who didn't know shit about shit
Nonsense. A lack of God is the only reasonable test of mental health.
The guy who wrote this probably read one of the studies that said people with some sort of faith are happier, etc. Being a pencil pusher, he decided to write some document. This is not lawsuit worthy, but of course some group is going to sue. This wasn't an issue until some busybody made it an issue.
I was in briefly and not in a foxhole but half the people in the Army office were atheists and the chaplain was so liberal in a Bishop Spong
or Albert Schweitzer fashion as to be nearly indistinguishable from one.
I left recently, about a year ago, and even then it was in vogue to stress the importance of "spiritual living." They'd let you claim anything that made you feel good, pretty much. I claimed fly fishing
just to stop being harassed about "lacking spiritual life" during all these suicide surveys.
When foxhole was a relevant term being an admitted atheist would probably catch you the same kind of bludgeoning that being openly gay would get you.
It is an issue because it shows how shitty the suicide screening is. Get the religious bullshit out of it and start looking at actual warning signs.
That's because atheists have UAVs and heavy armor. You don't need foxholes when you have drones and tanks.
Back when I was a Navy scamp...
A jeebus-thumping redneck chief bellowed, "The military doesn't need any goddamn atheists! There ain't no atheists in foxholes!"
A wiseass fireman apprentice in my division retorted, "Well, I guess it's a good thing we're on a ship in the middle of the Indian Ocean and thousands of miles from the nearest foxhole."
Damn... I wish I had said that.
No atheists in foxholes just means when you're at your most scared and irrational you're less likely to be an atheist in that moment. Same reason women are much less likely to be atheists. More emotional, less logical.
As Kurt Vonnegut said, it's more of an argument against foxholes than against atheism.