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The WWE November Thread - Who will survive?

Discussion in 'Wrestling' started by UCJOE, Nov 1, 2012.

  1. UCJOE

    UCJOE I have a lot of business with the Chinese

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    Its November

    Will Ryback be pushed down the card?
    Will Survivor Series do well?
    Will RAW ratings go above a 3 again?
     
  2. UCJOE

    UCJOE I have a lot of business with the Chinese

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    According to reports, WWE made the same in the last quarter that they did in 2011 (TV revenue)
    Even though they added programming (extra RAW & other shows) the ad revenue was down

    That is the point I was making, if WWE doesn't deliver the expected ratings they make less money. With RAW going down so much due to the 3 hrs they owe they make less per commercial & sponsorship & thus offset the extra hour & now have a million less investing in their product & less potential merch, PPV & live event buyres.
    It is Biz 101
     
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  3. UCJOE

    UCJOE I have a lot of business with the Chinese

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    ZIGGLER GOOD NEWS/BAD NEWS

    GOOD: Ziggler is working with Cena at house shows in Europe so it looks like they will go at Survivor Series
    BAD: What are the odds of Ziggler looking like anything but a huge jobber?
     
  4. UCJOE

    UCJOE I have a lot of business with the Chinese

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    Found this interesting from Alvarez:

    Man I think the Henry scenario was the best.

    &


    &


     
  5. UCJOE

    UCJOE I have a lot of business with the Chinese

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    I am liking these guys. This can be a fun midcard stable

     
  6. Cunt Smasher

    Cunt Smasher Caligula Jr.

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    Not a huge Flair fan, but he might bring something to the show they've been missing.
     
  7. UCJOE

    UCJOE I have a lot of business with the Chinese

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    A fun, crazy old drunk?

    I agree ;)
     
  8. UCJOE

    UCJOE I have a lot of business with the Chinese

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    Brodus in Snoop's new video




    It is a video tribute to "hot pockets" - I kid you not

    [​IMG]
     
  9. Cunt Smasher

    Cunt Smasher Caligula Jr.

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    I'm pretty sure Snoops real name is Broadus.
     
  10. UCJOE

    UCJOE I have a lot of business with the Chinese

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    Yep & Brodus was once a bodyguard for Snoop
     
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    Cunt Smasher Caligula Jr.

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    That's why I bought it up. Boring show so far.
     
  12. Neckbeard

    Neckbeard I'm Team Piggy!

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    I haven't given this little of a fuck about WWE in about 5,6 years. 3 hour RAW is the longest amount of time to the least amount of enjoyment in entertainment today.
    This is getting to be hiatus-level bad. The last time I enjoyed WWE this little was about 8 months in a Cena or Triple H heavyweight reign.
    Might have to cut 'em loose a bit after Road to WM.

    The characters are boring and generic looking and acting. The storylines stink. The matches deliver from an in-ring standpoint but as far as more emotional investment and "mark out moment" potential for them is non-existent. Bryan and Kane just highlight how awful tag teaming has been for years. They are an odd man/comedy group and easily the best thing in tagging in a good 3 year's time. The Divas are as bad as they've been in the past decade. The undercard is terrible, the mid-card irrelevant and the main event nostalgic, money-grubbing nonsense.

    I'd hit the reset button here. Vince McMahon gave a speech about the Attitude Era. Well, I think Triple H and Paul Heyman need to get the books and creative control from Vince and Steph and usher in a Quality over Quantity era. 3 programs, 2 hour RAW, Smackdown, 2 hour NXT. Scrap everything else. Scrap 6 to 8 garbage PPVs. Cut 25 people phoning it in and dragging ass and highlight 10 under-35 studs from developmental/NXT like Roman Reigns, Bray Wyatt, Dean Ambrose, Steamboat/Rollins as a tag team, etc. Just a full reboot and change in business.
     
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    UCJOE I have a lot of business with the Chinese

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    I agree with most of what you wrote.
    I would have to disagree about canceling The Main Event though, it is maybe their best TV
    I would give Paul the book & HHH in charge of everything else (development, overall direction, responsibility, who gets signed/called up, etc.)
     
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    UCJOE I have a lot of business with the Chinese

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    So WWE is finally promoting that Maddox will explain his actions this Monday. I hope it leads to Ryback showing a better range & more personality. The whole Punk angle seems flat if he is still only going to do power moves, nod his head & grunt "Feed Me More".
    This is a chance to show he could go to the next level instead of being just a big guy
    Maddox seems luike he might be good in his role, so I hope Ryback steps up but his "feed me Punk" grunt sucked & he looks like a one-trick wrestler
     
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    Lord Zero Viciously Silly

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    I never thought about it before, but that would a fucking sweet team.
     
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    Lord Zero Viciously Silly

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    CagesideSeats.com had a good feature on Brad Maddox basically introducing him to anyone unfamiliar with him that you should definitely check out. (I would link it, but I'm on my notebook and Cageside's new web design crashed it so I'm afraid to try again on it.)

    Brad Maddox (real name: Brent Wellington) is actually a wrestler who has been working in OVW and then-FCW for while (since '08) under the names Beef Wellington and his current name. He's a former OVW Heavyweight Champion and is supposed to be pretty good so we might see him in a wrestling capacity soon.
    It's funny you mention that because that's exactly what he is.
     
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    UCJOE I have a lot of business with the Chinese

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    When he first came around & did the ref angle, I posted info on him saying he would most likely wind up in angles due to his training


    I hope for more but if that was all they gave him on RAW, then WWE obviously doesn't have faith in him that he can do more
    Either that or Punk is playing political games again :action-sm
     
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    Lord Zero Viciously Silly

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    I knew Punk had become a politician when he got Colt Cabana rehired and when he successfully lobbied to beat the Undertaker in a Hell in a Cell match. Oh wait...
     
  19. UCJOE

    UCJOE I have a lot of business with the Chinese

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    Lets not forget politicking to be in the midcard of Mania
     
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    Lord Zero Viciously Silly

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    And convincing the booking staff to suddenly kill the Straight Edge Society angle for no reason.
     
  21. UCJOE

    UCJOE I have a lot of business with the Chinese

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    & to kill the angle of him leaving with the belt & becoming the most notorious wrestler ever in WWE
    I mean it was very important for him to come back & get put in a feud with Nash without the belt & then job to HHH
     
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    Lord Zero Viciously Silly

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    And there was that time he argued to be eliminated from the Elimination Chamber match at ECW December to Dismember 2006 instead of winning it.
     
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    UCJOE I have a lot of business with the Chinese

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    Yeah but that was before he had "pull" & did things like insert himself in a silly comedy angle based around AJ
     
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    UCJOE I have a lot of business with the Chinese

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    Oh & poked around Cagesideseats & saw the tourney they are doing

    [​IMG]

    pretty cool.
    I don't think they should include RR though

    Very telling that there are EIGHT HBK matches still in the running

    WWE will never see another big match performer like him again
     
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    UCJOE I have a lot of business with the Chinese

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    Meltzer on Brock/Ryback & Punk

    I found several things interesting
    I didn't know they already laid out specific dates & that Hunter & Brock was that definite (although it could change but both Brock & HHH have a shitload of pull)
    While I agree that Ryback isn't a "big name", if they put him over huge at HIAC, a potential Brock match at RR or SS would be a big money match

    I am still hoping they switch it up & have Brock interfere in the Punk/Rock match at Rumble & Punk goes to Mania as champ & we get Brock/Rock ....... imagine that match being hyped & it would be the biggest mania ever
     

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