TorrentSpy Ordered By Judge to Become MPAA Spy

#1
Another one bites the dust. Well you can continue using it if you want, but don't be surprised to get a CaD from the MPAA and/or your ISP.
TorrentSpy Ordered By Federal Judge to Become MPAA Spy
Written by enigmax on June 09, 2007

TorrentSpy, one of the world’s largest torrent dump sites, has been ordered by a federal judge to monitor its users in order to create detailed logs of their activities which must then be handed over to the MPAA.

On May 29, TorrentSpy - one of the web’s most famous .torrent dump sites was told by federal judge Jacqueline Chooljian in the Central District of California that despite the site’s privacy policy which states they will never monitor their visitors without consent, they must start creating logs detailing their user’s activities.

Understandably, this is a worrying move by the court - even more so when one considers these logs must then be turned over to the MPAA. This is believed to be the first time a judge has ordered a defendant to log visitor activity and then hand over the information to the plaintiff. The decision - arrived at last month but under seal - could force sites that are defendants in a law suit to track the actions of their visitors.

The owners have been granted a stay of the order in order to make an appeal, which must be filed by June 12, says Ira Rothken, TorrentSpy’s attorney.

“It is likely that TorrentSpy would turn off access to the U.S. before tracking its users,” said Rothken. “If this order were allowed to stand, it would mean that Web sites can be required by discovery judges to track what their users do even if their privacy policy says otherwise.”

This action follows MPAA action in 2006 against several BitTorrent sites, TorrentSpy included. According to the MPAA, Torrentspy helps others commit copyright infringement by directing people to sites which enable them to download copyright material, an offense claims the MPAA, of secondary copyright infringement.

At the time, Rothken said “It [TorrentSpy] cannot be held ‘tertiary’ liable for visitors’ conduct that occurs away from its web search engine”. TorrentSpy claims it did nothing illegal and suggested the MPAA should sue Google.

An attorney with the Electronic Frontier Foundation referred to the order to demand a defendant log visitor activity and then hand over the information to the plaintiff as “unprecedented.” He continued “In general, a defendant is not required to create new records to hand over in discovery. We shouldn’t let Web site logging policies be set by litigation”

One way or another, it seems that the MPAA is determined to obtain information about TorrentSpy and its users. A complaint issued by TorrentSpy suggests the MPAA paid a hacker $15,000 to steal e-mail correspondence and trade secrets. The hacker admitted that this was true.
http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/06/09/1253234
http://news.com.com/TorrentSpy+ordered+to+start+tracking+visitors/2100-1030_3-6189866.html
http://torrentfreak.com/torrentspy-ordered-to-spy-on-its-users-on-behalf-of-the-mpaa/
 

abudabit

New Wackbag
#2
That stinks, that's the one I always go to. I listen to O&A through it.
 

FMDoug

Registered User
#3
TorrentSpy suggests the MPAA paid a hacker $15,000 to steal e-mail correspondence and trade secrets. The hacker admitted that this was true.
Isn't hacking illegal? Torrent spy should have countersued. How can the MPAA hire someone to do something it is basically trying to stop? Talk about a double standard.

I guess I will have to now get my movies for 2 bucks on a street corner. It beats 10 at the theater and 3 at the video store.
 

Sct Ptersns Twn

Looking 4 a New 1st Mate
#4
From the illustrious Ruckstande:

"Fuck them in their fucking asses"
 

MrAbovePar

En Taro Anthony
#5
Or just download Newsleecher subscribe to giganews and register at nbzsrus and leech straight from usenet.
 

Plunkies

Registered User
#6
Torrentspy sucks anyway. Is mininova still safe?
 
#7
Gotta love these fucking people. The MPAA is far and fast becoming ten times worse cunts than the RIAA. Who will be on this bandwagon soon enough I'm sure.

All it takes is money changing hands to the right people with influence, a robe, or a legislative pen. But try to get your taxes lowered, or crime to get fixed and this government doesn't know you.
 

Nothing Sound

Riding the Biggest Wave
#9
I like the way people are conducting illegal activity and then get
pissed off when they are caught and measures are taken to stop them.

It's kinda like the guy that gets a ticket for doing 75
in a 55 and then calls the cop a douche bag for doing his job.
 

ruckstande

Posts mostly from the shitter.
#10
I like the way people are conducting illegal activity and then get
pissed off when they are caught and measures are taken to stop them.

It's kinda like the guy that gets a ticket for doing 75
in a 55 and then calls the cop a douche bag for doing his job.
That isn't the point, the point is that the MPAA is forcing people to be their snitch. If Torrent spy doesn't want to monitor what people are doing than they should have to. Who the fuck are the MPAA telling people they have to hand over document to them? It isn't a government agency.
 
#11
I've never really looked in to it, but what can they do exactly if they want to?
For instance, let's assume I've downloaded hundreds of gigabytes from torrent sites (Music, tv shows, porn, movies) what's the action they could take against a user?

Also, lets assume I have about $800 to my name.

My friend was sued once by Fox, for being one of the original uploaders for the first Family Guy when it came back on the one about something "North by Northwest" or something. He had to pay like $500 dollars and recieved all kinds of letter/calls/emails about being taken to court, but nothing really happened. He just doesn't download Fox related torrents now.
 

fuckwit

He loves you, and he needs money.
#12
Is mininova still safe?
no public torrent site really is. check the comments before you download anything. and never download anything attached to HBO
 
#13
i like torrent spy but i haven't gotten movies from there in a long time. it may just be me but I'm tired of sub par video. id rather wait till the dvd comes out and then burn it and have a better copy my self. music on the other had yea. i but maybe a few cds a yea now.
 
#16
I grabbed the Sopranos from Isohunt.com.. the original tracker said it was Mininova.

Who knows anymore, I'm willing to risk it though.
Download away.
 

fuckwit

He loves you, and he needs money.
#17
so I take it I shouldn't download the Sopranos seasons?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BitTorrent

HBO, in an effort to combat the distribution of its programming on BitTorrent networks, has sent cease and desist letters to the Internet Service Providers of BitTorrent users. Many users have reported receiving letters from their ISP's that threatened to cut off their internet service if the alleged infringement continues[25]. HBO, unlike the RIAA, has not been reported to have filed suit against anyone for sharing files as of April 2007. On the other hand, in 2005 HBO began "poisoning" torrents of its show Rome (TV), by providing bad chunks of data to clients.[26]
http://slashdot.org/articles/05/10/07/015210.shtml

"HBO is actively poisoning the BitTorrent downloads of the new show Rome. In addition to an older tactic of offering bogus downloads that never complete, HBO is now obstructing the downloads offered by other people. HBO runs peers that tell the tracker they have all the chunks of the show, but then send garbage data when a downloader requests a chunk. While the bogus peers can be detected, it will take much longer to download shows."

they're just very active. i know alot of people who have got the hbo cease and desist. i think it really depends on your isp giving them your info and even though the wiki claim is no one has been sued from hbo alot of people have from other companies. hbo hires internet watchdogs to police their content so unless your part of a private torrent community i wouldnt touch any hbo torrents.
 

highway23

I miss NY wings
#19
jesus, I think I'll just rent & copy the DVDs

I think I can find them around...maybe I'll even check out blockbuster and see if they have any used...

26 gigs of a download...that's a long fucking time
 
#20
jesus, I think I'll just rent & copy the DVDs

I think I can find them around...maybe I'll even check out blockbuster and see if they have any used...

26 gigs of a download...that's a long fucking time
I assume I grabbed the same 26Gig torrent, it actually was a really fast torrent, I got around 125Kb/s.

But you don't have to get the whole thing at once, use a client that allows you to download the files seperate. Get like Season 1 episode 1,2,3 the first day and then so on. You're not going to watch them all at once anyways.

Blockbuster sucks, mine doesn't carry many HBOs shows because they claim they're too expensive to keep and not enough rentals or some shit.
 
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