U.S. Approves Taliban Embassy

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In Qatar. Scared ya for a second didn't I? :action-sm

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...r-approved-by-us/story-e6frg6so-1226135168019
THE US has given its blessing for the Taliban to be brought in from the cold with a critical step towards reconciliation as the world paused to mark the 10th anniversary of the 9/11 attacks.

Washington has endorsed plans for the Islamist network to open political headquarters in the gulf state of Qatar by the end of the year. The move has been devised so the West can begin formal peace talks with the Taliban.

As a potent reminder of the potential value of a truce with the Taliban, attacks by the Islamist network in Afghanistan yesterday left two dead and 101 wounded in a truck bomb, marking one of the bloodiest days for American forces since the US invasion 10 years ago.

The office of the self-styled Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan would be the first internationally recognised representation for the Taliban since its fall in 2001.

The White House declined to comment on the development last night as Mr Obama addressed the nation on the anniversary of the al-Qa'ida attacks. In the decade since, there has been a shift in Washington's attitudes towards the Taliban and a growing official distinction between the Pashtun nationalists and their former allies in al-Qa'ida.

Western diplomats said it was hoped the opening of the Taliban office would help to advance talks intended to reconcile insurgents with the Afghan government and bring an end to the decade-long US-led war.

Qatar is believed to have agreed to host the office after Washington insisted that it be located outside Pakistan's sphere of influence. The Afghan government has accused Islamabad of meddling in several previous efforts to negotiate with Taliban intermediaries in an effort to preserve its influence inside Afghanistan.

Western officials said the opening of the office would serve as a confidence-building measure in the lead-up to what they hope will become formal talks towards ending the war.

It would be an address where they had a political office, said one Western diplomat. It would not be an embassy or a consulate but a residence where they could be treated like a political party.

The diplomat stressed the Taliban would not be permitted to use the office for fundraising or in support of their armed struggle in Afghanistan. It is understood the Taliban is seeking assurances that its representatives in Doha, the Qatari capital, would be free from the threat of harassment or arrest.

The initiative follows more than a year of informal stop-start talks between Western diplomats and a senior representative of the Taliban, Tayyab Agha, at the home of a former Taliban diplomat in Qatar.

Abdul Hakim Mujahid, the former Taliban ambassador to Islamabad and one-time envoy to the UN in New York, said Mr Agha was negotiating with the personal authority of the Taliban's supreme leader, Mullah Mohammed Omar. Western diplomats said there was little hope of brokering a end to the conflict without his blessing. Previous attempts at negotiations have foundered over the credentials of intermediaries.

Mr Mujahid said the Taliban was seeking to develop its direct contacts with the US because it had little faith in Afghan President Hamid Karzai's ability to honour promises without US backing.

Diplomatic relations with the Taliban. This will end well.

How do you get an embassy if you don't even have a country? "whaa"
 

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As a potent reminder of the potential value of a truce with the Taliban, attacks by the Islamist network in Afghanistan yesterday left two dead and 101 wounded in a truck bomb, marking one of the bloodiest days for American forces since the US invasion 10 years ago.
Aka not looking good. Figures, its been a stalemate for fuckin' years. Taliban have maintained control for a decade and a half and they're getting the level of support they had pre-9/11.
 

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How do you get an embassy if you don't even have a country? "whaa"
It would be an address where they had a political office, said one Western diplomat. It would not be an embassy or a consulate but a residence where they could be treated like a political party.


Why isn't the fact that they attacked our embassy yesterday the bigger story?

Taliban attack US Embassy, other Kabul buildings

By AMIR SHAH - Associated Press,
PATRICK QUINN - Associated Press | AP – Tue, Sep 13, 2011

KABUL, Afghanistan (AP) — Teams of insurgents firing rocket-propelled grenades and automatic weapons struck at the U.S. Embassy, NATO headquarters and other buildings in the heart of the Afghan capital Tuesday, raising fresh doubts about the Afghans' ability to secure their nation as U.S. and other foreign troops begin to withdraw.

Seven Afghans were killed and 15 wounded in the coordinated daylight attack, which sent foreigners dashing for cover and terrified the city from midday well into the night as U.S. helicopters buzzed overhead. No embassy or NATO staff members were hurt.

Late Tuesday, at least two gunmen remained holed up on the top floors of an apartment building from which they and other militants had attacked the heavily fortified embassy.

The militants' seeming ability to strike at will in the most heavily defended part of Kabul suggested that they may have had help from rogue elements in the Afghan security forces. The attacks also coincided with suicide bombings elsewhere in the capital — the first time insurgents have organized such a complex assault against multiple targets in separate parts of the city.

The Taliban claimed responsibility for the attack, though Kabul's deputy police chief said he thought an affiliated organization, the Haqqani network, carried it out.

The Taliban and related groups have staged more than a dozen assaults in Kabul this year, including three major attacks since June. That represents an increase from years past and is clearly intended to offset U.S. claims of weakening the insurgents on southern battlefields and through hundreds of night raids by special forces targeting their commanders.

The Obama administration declared that it wouldn't allow Tuesday's attack to deter the American mission in Afghanistan, warning the attackers that they would be relentlessly pursued.

Even so, the U.S. Embassy in Kabul canceled all trips in and out of Afghanistan for its diplomats, and suspended all travel within Afghanistan.

High blast walls ring the embassy compound, and there was little damage to the reinforced concrete buildings, many of which are surrounded by sandbags.

Four Afghans were wounded when a rocket-propelled grenade hit the original U.S. Embassy building next to the new embassy, CIA Director David Petraeus told lawmakers on Capitol Hill. Among them was a young girl who was with a group waiting for visas outside the embassy, he said.

Afghan officials said the violence around Kabul resulted in the deaths of three police officers and four civilians. Four of the wounded were caught up in attempted suicide bombings. Six insurgents were also killed, police said.

According to Afghan officials, the attack began just after noon when a car packed with insurgents was stopped at a checkpoint at Abdul Haq square, which is about 300 yards (meters) from the U.S. Embassy. There were a series of large explosions and the insurgents entered a nine-floor building that was under construction overlooking the embassy and the nearby NATO headquarters complex.

Four to five insurgents opened fire on the complex. There was a simultaneous barrage of explosions around the Wazir Akbar Khan area, near the U.S. Embassy and home to a number of other foreign missions. Explosions shook the neighborhood.

Three other insurgents attempted to carry out suicide attacks and all were killed. One was shot on the road leading from the capital to the airport, and the two others when they tried to attack Afghan police buildings in western Kabul, across the city from the embassy.

The bullets detonated one of the militants' explosives vest, wounding two police officers. Another militant detonated his vest at a nearby building, wounding two civilians.

Afghan security forces raided the nine-story building and killed two insurgents, but at least two others remained on the top floors late into the night. U.S. Army helicopters flew over the building and an Afghan army MI-35 attack helicopter opened fire on it with its gatling gun.

It was unclear how much weaponry the insurgents had, but one eyewitness said they were equipped with heavy machine guns, rocket-propelled grenades and possibly a mortar.

Western security officials, speaking on condition of anonymity for security reasons, speculated that the insurgents may have had help smuggling so many weapons into Kabul and the area near the embassy. There have been numerous instances of insurgents infiltrating the Afghan army and police to carry out attacks.

Afghan police Gen. Daoud Amin, deputy police chief of Kabul, said the Haqqani insurgent network was likely behind the attack. The Haqqani network is a Pakistan-based group affiliated with both the Taliban and al-Qaida. It has emerged as one of the biggest threats to stability in Afghanistan.

"This is the first time that we had four suicide bombers in four different places. This is new as previously we had one or maximum two attacks," said Haroun Mir, director of the Afghanistan Center for Research and Policy Studies, a Kabul-based think tank. "The Haqqani network has the full support of al-Qaida and has the capacity to execute sophisticated attacks. It's the only group with this capacity."

The U.S. Defense Department blamed the Haqqani network for a truck bomb that blew up outside an American base over the weekend, wounding 77 U.S. soldiers and killing five Afghans. The attack occurred in eastern Wardak province, an hour's drive from Kabul.

The violence carries an unsettling message to Western leaders and their Afghan allies about the resilience and reach of the Taliban and related organizations. It is also an indication the militants may not be interested in pursuing peace talks with President Hamid Karzai's government or the United States.

White House press secretary Jay Carney said the U.S. would continue to move toward removing soldiers sent in as part of the 2009 troop surge and would keep training local forces.

"This will in no way deter our commitment to the mission, which is to provide for security in the country as we work to transition a security lead to the Afghan national security forces," Carney said.

NATO Secretary-General Anders Fogh Rasmussen echoed this, saying in Brussels that the "enemies of Afghanistan" were trying to disrupt the handing over of security responsibility to the Afghans.

Karzai said the attacks would not deter Afghan security forces from taking full responsibility for security by the time the international community withdraws all its combat troops.

"By carrying out such attacks terrorists cannot stop the transition of security from international to Afghan forces," Karzai said in a statement.

The U.S. and other foreign troops intend to withdraw from the country by the end of 2014. President Barack Obama has ordered the withdrawal of 33,000 troops by the end of next summer, and some of America's international partners are making plans to remove some of their forces. There are now about 131,000 foreign troops in Afghanistan, with 90,000 from the United States.

The expansion of the Afghan army and police is critical to NATO's exit strategy. Earlier this summer, the alliance handed over responsibility for security in seven areas, including two provinces. But violence has increased in some of those places.

The U.S. hopes to have 325,000 Afghan army and police in the field by the end of 2014. But the Afghan forces have been plagued by desertions. And on Tuesday, the Pentagon announced it will try to cut the multibillion dollar cost of training the forces.

http://news.yahoo.com/taliban-attack-us-embassy-other-kabul-buildings-140308346.html
 

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Why isn't the fact that they attacked our embassy yesterday the bigger story?
Ass :haha7:

And yeah, let's just give them more power so they can use it against us. And the jjjeeeewwwwwwwssss
 

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Ass :haha7:

And yeah, let's just give them more power so they can use it against us. And the jjjeeeewwwwwwwssss
How much longer you want to be there? It's been quite apparent that we're never going to eliminate the Taliban for a long time now and that a diplomatic solution is inevitable.
 

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How much longer you want to be there? It's been quite apparent that we're never going to eliminate the Taliban for a long time now and that a diplomatic solution is impossible.
fify

I don't want us to be making deals with these non-humans. Either pull EVERYONE out, or keep trying to get rid of them. Only one of these options even makes sense. Maybe if we wouldn't sit in their stupid "holy land" they'd leave us alone and continue killing off the rest of the savages over there so we can move in with our Wal Marts.
 

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Ron Paul got a lot of shit the other day for saying the same thing. But as much as we fucking HHHATTTE the concept of "holy land," the shit is the truth. They truly believe we are blaspheming by, well, protecting people from them.

9/11 happened because those fucking ASSHOLES consider us a threat to their land so they figure, hey, what's the equivilent of building a school for our kids so they don't grow up to be savages? Oh, I know. Let's kill 3000 people.

God I hate them.
 

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Why isn't the fact that they attacked our embassy yesterday the bigger story?
maybe because Pakistan had something to do with it.

WASHINGTON — Pakistan’s intelligence agency aided the insurgents who attacked the American Embassy in Kabul last week, Adm. Mike Mullen, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, told the Senate on Thursday.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/23/world/asia/mullen-asserts-pakistani-role-in-attack-on-us-embassy.html

adm. mullen is retiring in a week or so. he don't give a fuck about playing politically correct.
 

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Why would we approve a Taliban embassy in Qatar? Oh....it makes sense now....:cool:
Yeah, re-granting Taliban political power is a brilliant strategic move. :eyeroll
 
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The militants' seeming ability to strike at will in the most heavily defended part of Kabul suggested that they may have had help from rogue elements in the Afghan security forces. - Just figure that one out Colombo?