U.S. Border Fence Protrudes into Mexico

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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19513246/

Updated: 8:08 p.m. ET June 29, 2007
COLUMBUS, N.M. - A 1.5-mile barrier along the U.S.-Mexico border was designed to keep cars from illegally crossing into the United States. There's just one problem: It was accidentally built on Mexican soil. Now embarrassed border officials say the mistake could cost the federal government more than $3 million to fix.

The barrier was part of more than 15 miles of border fence built in 2000, stretching from the town of Columbus to an onion farm and cattle ranch.

A U.S. Customs and Border Protection spokesman said the vertical metal tubes were sunk into the ground and filled with cement along what officials firmly believed was the border. But a routine aerial survey in March revealed that the barrier protrudes into Mexico by 1 to 6 feet.

James Johnson, whose onion farm is in the disputed area, said he thinks his forefathers may have started the confusion in the 19th century by placing a barbed-wire fence south of the border. No one discovered their error, and crews erecting the barrier may have used that fence as a guideline.

"It was a mistake made in the 1800s," Johnson said. "It is very difficult to make a straight line between two points in rugged and mountainous areas that are about two miles apart."

The Mexican government was notified and did what any landowner would do: They sent a note politely insisting that Mexico get its land back.

"Our country will continue insisting for the removal (of the fence) to be done as quickly as possible," the Foreign Relations Department said in a diplomatic missive to Washington.

'At the time'
When the barrier was built in 2000, the project was believed to cost about $500,000 a mile. Estimates to uproot and replace it range from $2.5 million to $3.5 million.

Michael Friel, the spokesman for Customs and Border Protection, said the barrier was "built on what was known to be the international boundary at the time." He acknowledged the method used was "less precise than it is today."

The International Boundary and Water Commission, a joint Mexican-American group that administers the 2,000-mile border, said the border has never changed and is marked every few miles by tall concrete or metal markers.

Sally Spener, a commission spokeswoman in El Paso, said the agency is generally consulted for construction projects to ensure that treaties are followed. The commission is working with the Department of Homeland Security "to develop a standardized protocol" for building fences and barriers.

"We just want to make sure those things are clear now," Spener said.

'The fence is crooked'
New Mexico Sen. Jeff Bingaman asked Customs and Border Protection officials to build a new fence on U.S. soil before the old one is torn down.

Bingaman said he was concerned about security issues in Las Chepas, the small Mexican village where most area residents live. New Mexico once sought permission to raze the community because it was known as a popular staging area for illegal immigrants and drug smugglers.

Back at his farm, Johnson said he doesn't understand why the placement of the barriers has become an issue now since his family's fence went unquestioned for more than a century.

"The markers are in the right place, and the fence is crooked," Johnson said. "But for 120-plus years it was agreed upon that that fence was the border."
Nice construction.
 

RobeSoup&Tears

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Mexico made a big deal about a few feet meanwhile we have Millions here and we're spending so much to support medically and process and criminals judicially.
 

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Fuck those whiny Mexicants. A foot or two, big fucking deal. If your dumb asses didn't figure it out till a 120+ years later, tough fucking shit.

If the insist on be cock suckers about it, levy a 15% fee on any and all money transfers from the US to Mexico, et al.
 

MrAbovePar

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Well, the US has the right to cede the equipment and structure to Mexico. Let them clear it up if it pisses them off so much.
 

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Fuck those whiny Mexicants. A foot or two, big fucking deal. If your dumb asses didn't figure it out till a 120+ years later, tough fucking shit.

If the insist on be cock suckers about it, levy a 15% fee on any and all money transfers from the US to Mexico, et al.

As Michael Savage stated: "Oil for Illegals" - One barrel of oil per month for each illegal in this country. Mexico is sitting on 40 billion barrels, and it would offset the expenses to support these intruders. What the fuck is wrong with this country ? Why do we put up with this shit ?
 

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One to six feet? Why make this an issue? If Mexico or Canada was one to six feet into the U.S. unless the land was owned privately I doubt anyone would give a damn.

But I guess on the other hand, I suppose it does set a bad precedent.
 

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Fuck 'em and feed 'em oatmeal. . . I'd leave it like it is and dare 'em to touch it.:D
 

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$3 million to fix? It would be cheaper to just buy the northern half of Mexico.
 

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Sorry, inside joke.

I second the oil for illegals idea. Every time I try to return something to Wal Mart and have to stand behind 10 Mexicans sending their paychecks back to Mexico via Moneygram is just amazes me that we continue to allow this to happen. They're NOT contributing to the economy for the most part. They buy everything under the table that they can, and send every dollar they make out of the country. It's disgusting.

And don't make this about race. I like Mexican people. But they need to understand that if they're gonna come here they need to do it right and they need to assimilate to our society like every other immigrant group before them did.
 

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And don't make this about race. I like Mexican people. But they need to understand that if they're gonna come here they need to do it right and they need to assimilate to our society like every other immigrant group before them did.

Exactly. I hate that when you say "They need to come here legally", people twist it into "I hate Mexicans".
 

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If it has been that way since the 19th century...under squatters rights..wouldn't the guy whose land it is on own it?
 

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To be fair black people waste way more of our tax dollars then illegals do. And they commit more crimes. So being an illegal is the worst this for this country.
 

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What the hell is the difference, between 1-6 feet of dirt anyway? We'll probably pay Mexicans to do the job and they'll send the money home. Get hurt on the job, we'll pay for it.

Welcome to the U.S. :action-sm
 

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Good excuse for the Mexis to build it. I say get all the illegals to build it, from the other side.
 

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How about we'll move the fence when they take back all their illegals and KEEP THEM THERE!