Discussion in 'Current Events' started by Mags, May 14, 2013.
.05 is coming soon. Enjoy:
Don't make me dig up the thread where I said this was coming.
How about we take those stupid useless cunts and ship them to Africa, they can then help those poor fucks out.
Like proper do-gooders.
I fully support a drunk driving endorsement to licenses.
But it would potentially save 500-800 lives!
Revenue generation for the government. That is all this is about. States and municipalities need the money because they've wasted it.
Did a ride along with a town cop the other day. Asked her about checkpoints.
1. They're illegal in Wyoming.
2. They don't work in places that they are legal.
MADD is behind this, as usual, and they're a neo-prohibition group that makes money off the poor saps that get caught drunk driving. They're in the drunk driving business.
One of the small parts of this story that isn't getting as much press is the increased use of passive alcohol sniffing devices like the flashlight with a sensor in it. This is some real police state shit.
Yup and I agreed with you.
This is total bullshit and a huge money generating move.
I don't even drink and this is enraging.
I wonder if they give false hits on ethanol? I can smell the difference in exhaust fumes when I burn ethanol.
"My sensor indicated alcohol so I performed a field sobriety check and he failed."
Somehow this is all Reese Witherspoon's fault.
Same here. I have a beer after work about three days a week. That's it. I just don't like the direction this country is headed. Cradle-to-grave control of our lives.
I can fucking juggle knives and sing the alphabet backwards at .05. Ridiculous.
Reminded me of this...
I think the limit in Michigan was just raised to .1 due to the .08 law expiring.
Another tip I got from the local popo....
ALWAYS take your DUI to jury trial. Especially around here. They just won't convict drunk drivers unless there's an accident involved.
That's where it should be.
The drop to .08 and the strong arming by the feds to kill
highway funds for non-compliance was total bullshit.
just more revenue generating by governments
Genuine question: how does MADD profit?
When you get a DUI, in many places you have to go to MADD classes that cost thousands of dollars.
Someone convicted of a DWI may be required to attend a Victim Impact Panel, which is essentially a lecture where people from MADD tell you what a horrible person you are. Which in many states you have to pay a fee to attend. And in other states like California (where the fee is prohibited) you are instead shamed into making a donation to MADD.
This could be total bullshit and don't remember where I read it because it was so long ago, but when 0.08 was being initiated, MADD wasn't behind it because it's not the people teetering on the 0.08 threshold you need to worry about, it's the people who don't give a shit and go out hard core boozing and get behind the wheel where they're at a 0.25.
But aside from that, seems like this is just a congressional lay up "for the children" that only evil people will oppose. Although, I do wonder how low they can make it before they run afoul of whatever liquor lobbying groups are out there.
Maybe it's also revenge against conservatives for the failure of increased background checks for firearm purchases.
Never heard of it being that high price wise and I live in one of the worst states to get a DUI in. I had to pay $280 for my IDRC (Intoxicated Drivers Resource Center) class that was 4 days 4hrs a day (16hrs total). My friend when he got his second had to pay like 450 for a 48hr class that was at a Christian camp ground. You got there Friday night and left Sunday night. If you leave the grounds and they find out (they did 3 head counts a day) you get arrested and you have to do a week in jail. IDRC classes they consider it like day reporting for jail.
They dont want to lower the limit for our safety. They want to do it because it is a huge money maker since they started doing the random check points. My first and only dui (which was even my first traffic violation. I never had a speeding ticket) cost me 7 month suspension, $800 in fines, $300 in random fees ($100 was an administration fee wtf is that) , $280 for IDRC, $3,000 in surcharges, $30 for a state id because they shred your drivers license at the court house when you pay your fines, and $45 for a new license. The shredding of your license thing annoys me because A. Why take it the computer system says your suspended B. Why not send that one back to me when my suspension is up and C. What if I dont have a way to get to the dmv to get a state id. Then it dawned on ne they do it that way so you not only have to go purchase a state id (you cant not have id pretty much these days) but you have to pay for a license again. The last part they dgaf about. Its a massive money grab
MADD has always been pushing for lower limits.
It was in fact their lobbying that helped get the feds to go for the .08 limit
on a federal level and use the threat of cutting off federal funding for those
states that didn't fall in line with it.