Discussion in 'Current Events' started by Party Rooster, Jun 19, 2011.
hmmmm..... well i do like to drink, i have a loaded .45 under my pillow and keep one in my car so when im driving home from the bar i can shoot other bad drivers.
huh, guess the study is right.
Love Ant but I can't stand his music. Great vid , nicely done!
Fucking assholes cited a study that can't be read without paying.
They also didn't exactly make it easy to dig up the abstract. Not that it's a lot of good without the whole text of the study including the questions and 'adjustment for demographics' that the author did to the results.
Here's the abstract:
New study finds that studies out of UC Davis don't understand correlation.
First thing that came into my head:
Hicks drink a lot, because their lives are kind of shitty and boring and relatively marginalized. Similar to american indians, just not as extreme.
Hicks also love guns. Cuz they're hicks. It's their thing.
Hey! why do you gotta drag Pepper into this?
Isn't the whole study about correlation? Whether or not it reinforces a stereotype, the point of the study was to determine whether there is a higher incidence of drinking amongst gun owners. Statistically this was the case in this study. It's not the same as if I said "I've been safe from tiger attacks since I found this rock, therefore it must be a tiger-repellent rock".
I'm drunk right now and I have a shitload of guns and I don't wanna shoot anybody
The comments of the author are so unscientific it's ridiculous. This chunk
is such a ham-handed attempt to link basic concepts
Drinking = RISK = binge drinking = RISK = drunk driving = RISK = firearms = RISK = loaded guns = RISK = loaded guns in cars = RISK
One of the worst attempts at cherry-picking I've ever seen.
Just write a political blog about how you think you're ideologically "advanced", and that guns are for paranoid racist neanderthals, and save yourself from embarrassment.
You meet the criteria set forth in the study. No one cares if you actually want to use your guns.
then what's the point?
At first I was going to be insulted, then I realized you're pretty much right... although I would argue what's so bad about a life filled with booze and guns? I'd probably be considered a "hick" by most here, and sure we live and drive around with loaded guns, and sure we drink a lot... so? I can't remember a time when that was a problem. All the shootings around here are almost exclusively from home invasions in grow houses.
How about they do another study regarding the correlation between gun ownership and alternative drug use? I'm pretty sure people who do hallucinogenics regularly are less likely to own a firearm. This study is as fucking pointless as one showing the relationship between heavy drinkers and car ownership. Sure someone who drinks heavy and owns a vehicle has the potential to be in a dangerous situation, but stick to the fucking facts regarding the issue. The reason they didn't report on actual accidental firearm deaths when someone is under the influence is because per capita the numbers are extremely fucking low and they wouldn't have a story.
Stupid, pointless, biased story is stupid, pointless, and biased. Par for the course for UC, really.
I'm actually surprised it came from Davis, which is pretty much an agricultural/more conservative school. You expect this from Berkley or Santa Cruz. Then again conservative for a UC is probably slightly left of moderate.
stop drinkin' so much , you gotta work tomorrow
I don't drink and have several firearms, which I would use in a heartbeat if justified.
So what good is a study that says "rocks repel tigers" then?
The study also showed that illegal gun owners are more likely to drink malt liquor.
That's also a piss poor sample size. Approximately 2,125 people from each state? Hardly large enough to actually make a qualified statement, but they obviously care more about trying to make a point than accuracy.
I haven't been drinking.
I would bet money the study was originally intended to be one on firearm accidents and the link to alcohol but they probably did the preliminary research and realized that there wasn't anywhere near enough to have any sort of meaningful study.
Buncha tofu wheat grass eating liberal hippies were behind this study.
Fuck, I guess I need to get more guns.