Discussion in 'Current Events' started by abudabit, Sep 25, 2007.
This is a really bad one, hope it isn't true.
If there was a program like this really, honestly in place... wouldn't you think more and more soldiers/former soldiers would be coming out of the woodwork and talking about it?
I wouldn't have so much of a problem if the 'bait' was more developed to attract real combatants, not just something as simple as a something laying on the ground. Anyone could come by and pick it up because they didn't know what it was, or think it has some value.
What's the problem with baiting enemy combatants into the open to shoot them? Seems like a sound strategy to me.
I'm guessing they didn't use bars of soap or deodorant for bait.
Really? So only combatants would pick up a free gun or interesting object? For every combatant you kill you probably kill 10 civilians doing this. Might as well just shoot random people.
I don't know about that. I'd pick up a free AK just laying there on the ground.
Apparently I was imagining the situation wrong. I assumed that they would be able to tell whether or not the person checking out the thing laying on the ground was a soldier or not, but I guess that's probably not the case.
So it took you six years to realize that the "Insurgents" aren't wearing an army uniform? Everyone looks the same, thats why we're getting our asses handed to us by a couple third world nations.
On the other hand, you can just lay out some detonation cord or an RPG and expect every person that picks up the said item is then enemy.
I got it! Hold a house party in Iraq. But on the signs and invitations for the party put "Insurgents Only!" in big red letters. Then when the insurgents come - blow up the house.
Did someone say BAIT?
I'm from Buenos Ares and I say Kill Em All!
Goddamn it, that's crazy enough that it just might work!
They should try that with fried chicken and watermelon here in the states.
If true, I'm thinking there is more to the program than released in the media. As highly trained and professional as snipers are I seriously doubt they would just shoot anyone picking up a bait object. There would be other considerations such as intel on a location or possible insurgent activity, a highly developed profiling matrix and lastly, the discretion of the sniper himself.
The few USMC snipers I've met in my time were extremely disciplined professionals who took their occupation and duty very seriously.
Kill em all, as long as they ain't American
:clap: Love that flick.
WORD. Snipers rule. Semper Fidelis.
Opening scene of "Used Cars" comes to mind...one fishing rod, one piece of gum, one 50-dollar bill.
Yup. At this point, anyone who lives in that shithole that's not us is suspect.
Sorry, but that's just the way it is.
even better idea, why don't we stop putting our soldiers who are trying to do their jobs in ompromising situations.
In other words... GET THE FUCK OUT OF THOSE SHIT HOLE COUNTRIES
Thanks for translating my babble.
Your a very wise and very old man.
If everyone is a suspect, why not just shoot everyone?
Why not just bomb the place?
That will make the world much happier with us.
Let's all remember that we're the strongest motherfuckers around, but a lot of other countries could still nuke us into oblivion if they got pissed enough.
They may not even get retaliation from us either. If enough countries wanted us gone badly enough, they could do a much better job of sneaking suitcase bombs into the US than any towel heads could.
So lets behave the way a civilised country does, even if we are fighting a bunch of savages.
Better yet, let's not fight a bunch of savages.
What, North Korea is going to look down on us with the way they treat their own citiizens? Iran is going to be pissed?
These countries are going to hate us, and want our destruction no matter what happens. I don't see colateral damage making any difference to them at all.
No, I'm sure they just throw a nondescript 3 foot piece of det-cord on the ground and shoot whoever picks it up. Hey is that a 10 year old? Ahhhh Who cares, the Brass told us to kill brown people.
PLus I'm sure word of this wouldn't spread through the Jihadist community. "Hey, sahib picked up some explosives that were just lying around the other day and his head came off".
I would too and I wouldn't want to be shot for it. Who wouldn't want free toys?
It's not a matter of uniform or not. On second thought, I really don't see anythign wrong with the practice. Iraqi people armed with weapons are probably bad guys, so fuckin' kill them.