Wet iphone

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iPhone 4 - into the pool. Dried it off and it is sitting in a bowl of rice. Never tried to power it up and took the sim card out before placing it in the rice. What's the best way to try to revive it? How long should we let it sit in the rice?
 

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till the cows come home

they don't fare well. look in the head phone jack to see if it looks pink, that is the wet detector

I dropped one in a bucket of water once and my cat like reflexes got it out before it really got wet and it was dead, but no pink indicator so Apple gave me a free refurb
 

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Let it sit in the rice at least until your new one arrives.
 

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Dropped mine onto the ground and bounced straight into a paint tray, then washed it out with some water. It got stuck on the emergency mode screen then it came back on after drying some but the keypad wasn't working. First tried resetting everything but that didn't work then tried moving the bottom port up and eventually it looks like it just started to fix itself. That was 2 weeks or so ago and it's been workin just like new.

No rice, sounds like a phone fix rumor spread by teenage girls.
 

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No rice, sounds like a phone fix rumor spread by teenage girls.
Well the rice does absorb water, so it's not like some crazy myth.

I dropped my iPhone 3 in the bathtub... Got it out immediately you know, and thought it was fucked.
It didn't turn out, I put it in rice for about 2 days. That's really all I did, left the sim in, etc.

Then I turned it on, and it just magically worked. It did have some issues, like it would just turn off on it's own, it would take photos on it's own, some things didn't work quite right, but all in all it was like 90% perfect.

I'd just ride it out in the rice, or give it more time off to dry.
 

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Go get some of that cat litter that has the clear crystals with the blue chips in it, I can't remember the name right now but it's Silica gel.. the same stuff that comes in those little baggies with new tools and stuff they dont want to rust before you pay for it. Stick the phone in an old sock, bury it in the litter and put it in a 170 degree oven for like 3 hours, or in the in the car in the sun, on the roof, on the porch, whatever and don't try an turn it on for at least a week. In most cases, regular water wont fuck things up if the unit was turned off when it got a bath.. sea water, or heavily treated water is different as it leaves deposits on the PCB and can be corrosive. Getting water behind an LCD screen and back-light is nearly always reason for replacement for those items but if the phone still works you're only out $80 or so.
 
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yup...drying it out is the key...I was fuktarded and dropped my ipod touch in a glass of diet mt. dew...and pulled it back out. It was on and playing O&A and never stopped..I had it in an Otterbox Commuter case with the silicon cover flaps secured...I cleaned it all off, dried it out and prayed to the tech gods and it worked...
 

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Well the rice does absorb water, so it's not like some crazy myth.
Yeah i get that, but doubt it makes any differrence than just wiping it dry with a cloth. But, i'm obviously not a whiz kid being that i actually stuck it under tha water faucet to rinse the paint off. I didn't even wipe minez dry, i just shook the water off and it was back workin within a day.
 

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Hold on... let me put on my E-lectronic Fred hat.

Okay... back when I was a hospital equipment fixer guy. The patients were always dropping their wireless telemetry cardiac monitor packs into the terlets or just wearing them when they took a shower. These packs were worth like 5 thousand bucks per pack, so it was a serious hit if those things got deadeded.

Here's the trick I used to save them... I got them as quick as I could after submersion and I put them into a jar of pure 100% lab alcohol that I kept in my shop for just such emergencies(and getting drunk).

You see... it's not just the water shorting shit out that fucks up electronic circuitry... it's also the corrosion that results from the water reacting with all of the electronic whizzardery and whirlygigs inside the waterlogged device in question. Even if you completely dry all of the water out of said device(rice trick) the corrosion damage may have already been done.

It's kinda weird to drop a wet device into a liquid to save it... but the alcohol works because it's displaces whatever water is in the device before the corrosion sets in. The alcohol doesn't cause corrosion like water does, and it evaporates quickly without leaving all of the residue and crud behind like water does.

Don't try this with vodka and/or the isopropyl(rubbing) alcohol... that is like half water. You need the pure lab alcohol... ethanol. I used to get it from the hospital supply place. I don't know how a civilian can get their hands on it. The 95% alcohol Everclear might work... if you can get it where you live... but the shit I used to get was like 99.9% pure and it worked like a motherfucker. I was able to save every soaked telemetry pack except for one that was too far gone, and I saved a couple of cell phones that worked flawlessly after I gave them the alcohol treatment.

 
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+1 on the alcohol. Worked for me with other phones. Even when I fell into bay (salt/brackish) water.
 

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Also, what you're doing with the 100% pure alcohol is completely displacing the water. Drying is all well and good, but water is sneaky; it gets in places where you just can't reach, and takes for-fucking-ever to dry.

Alcohol goes in the same places as water, displacing it, and rapidly evaporating.
 

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Flat out soak it in 100% (or as close as humanly possible) pure alcohol, then let it sit for a day or so for the alcohol to completely evaporate.
 

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That's the problem with an iPhone (and others with sealed batteries) is that you can't remove the power source, so electrical current is constantly running from the battery to the system.
 

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What do you do after you dip it in the alcohol?
Let it soak in the alcohol for about a minute... flip it over and shake it around so the alcohol gets into all the nooks and crannies. Then you take it out and shake it furiously... like you're beating your dick to a leaked Jessica Alba doing anal video or something... really give it a good shake to get as much alcohol and residual water out as possible. Then put the phone in a sunny window with a fan blowing at it for a day or two.
 

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tssss I like to soak it in cider or sumtin. tsss
 
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The pure alcohol is a great tip and its not bad for cleaning a circuit board either. One thing i would highly recommend is getting the battery disconnected as quick as possible when this happens. Obviously because of short circuit but also it only helps corrosion setup faster. Also since you have it open you can go about drying out as much water you can see, then do the alcohol cleaning. Since pure alcohol is not something easy to buy watch out for denatured since the other chemicals could be corrosive themselves. A 190 proof grain alcohol would be ideal since you know it wont have unsafe chems.
 

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Let it soak in the alcohol for about a minute... flip it over and shake it around so the alcohol gets into all the nooks and crannies. Then you take it out and shake it furiously... like you're beating your dick to a leaked Jessica Alba doing anal video or something... really give it a good shake to get as much alcohol and residual water out as possible. Then put the phone in a sunny window with a fan blowing at it for a day or two.
Another possible drying option might be to, silly as it sounds, bake it at very low temp in an oven, after the alcohol bath.
 

MayrMeninoCrash

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Go get some of that cat litter that has the clear crystals with the blue chips in it, I can't remember the name right now but it's Silica gel.. the same stuff that comes in those little baggies with new tools and stuff they dont want to rust before you pay for it. Stick the phone in an old sock, bury it in the litter and put it in a 170 degree oven for like 3 hours, or in the in the car in the sun, on the roof, on the porch, whatever and don't try an turn it on for at least a week. In most cases, regular water wont fuck things up if the unit was turned off when it got a bath.. sea water, or heavily treated water is different as it leaves deposits on the PCB and can be corrosive. Getting water behind an LCD screen and back-light is nearly always reason for replacement for those items but if the phone still works you're only out $80 or so.
Most of what I read said to avoid high heat for danger of ruining the electronics. I'm thinking a sunny windowsill might be ok, but a hair dryer could do more damage then the water.

It's been sitting in the rice overnight and I put it on the back porch in the sun. It's supposed to be upper 90's today. I'm not sure where I could get the alcohol, CA laws only allow a 151 proof Everclear be sold here. Worst comes to worst, I think Apple will swap it out for $200, which is cheaper then a secondhand ebay phone or extending the contract.

Next time I am in Vegas, I'll have to grab a few bottles of 190 proof Everclear, you know, for "research".
 

weeniewawa

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yup...drying it out is the key...I was fuktarded and dropped my ipod touch in a glass of diet mt. dew...and pulled it back out. It was on and playing O&A and never stopped..I had it in an Otterbox Commuter case with the silicon cover flaps secured...I cleaned it all off, dried it out and prayed to the tech gods and it worked...
you dropped it in while it was in an otter box?

how big of glass of MT Dew do you drink?

 

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I've done the rice thing (in a sealed container, some people forget that part) for 48 hours with at least four phones, and it's worked every single time. Not being able to remove the iPhone's battery might be an issue though. I kicked my first Android into a 6' pool and was able to save it. Another phone I had in the pocket of my shorts while I was drunk and ended up diving into a river and swimming for ~1 minute before I remembered it was there, saved that one also.
 
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I would put it in a ziplock bag w/ rice and then sit that on top of a cable box/receiver/Tivo etc...something about 120degrees...My work uses the 200proof for some tests and we have to get it in Ct. No legal in Mass..
 

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Well it's been sitting in an open top bowl buried in rice for 24+ hours. I put it outside in the sunlight for about 6 hours today (95 deg temps). It's not humid here (highest humidity was 58%) at all so I don't know if the covered bowl would make a difference. Also it's probably too late to alter what we are doing, but if you think it would make a difference, I could switch to a cover or a baggie.
 

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Well it's been sitting in an open top bowl buried in rice for 24+ hours. I put it outside in the sunlight for about 6 hours today (95 deg temps). It's not humid here (highest humidity was 58%) at all so I don't know if the covered bowl would make a difference. Also it's probably too late to alter what we are doing, but if you think it would make a difference, I could switch to a cover or a baggie.
I've done it both ways (sealed and unsealed containers) and have had good results. In theory it makes sense to use a sealed container, but I don't know how much it actually helps. You could throw some cellophane over the bowl, that might help.