Discussion in 'Current Events' started by Party Rooster, Feb 6, 2013.
This guy is going to be pilloried for organizing things.
Like I say, atheism can be a religion.
It would be hilarious if they "caught" religion.
(I couldn't find a decent image from the Pray Anything party.)
Feels good being right, doesn't it?
It would also be funny if these guys started acting like all the religions they hate. Molesting kids, cheating people, hating gays, etc. Although they seem like good folks.
Actually, by the very definition of religion, atheism can't be a religion...
Caught it like the disease it is.
We're allowed to joke about child molestation now? There is a no God!
While I don't actually think you can "catch" religion, organizations with no purpose tend to get taken over by something if they don't fail. I think the most likely thing to come about this if it continues is an atheist special interest group, although a cult is definitely a possibility.
Right now it's just a stupid one-time event... but if anyone sticks around it's going to be the people who need something from it... either weaker-minded people or predatory ones. No one commits every Sunday to organized "reflection" unless there's an end-game.
So are these people not atheists? They have a church.
So did Opie's father.
Yeah I usually put "religion" in quotes when I make that statement... but when you're organized, you are absolutely confident you have the right answer even though there's no proof to support it, and you actively lobby against other religions, you're pretty much in a religion.
(And I realize this group hasn't attacked religions, yet).
I call it a religion because I can't understand why atheists would care if another person worships a god... they have no god to be offended by that action, and yet they hate even seeing religions represented. Also this applies to a minority of atheists... the more fanatical ones. Most don't act like this, and these people haven't started, although if this congregations continues I absolutely believe they will.
Not an acceptable answer. They have a building and a congregation. They want to get together. They call it a church. So are they excommunicated as atheists?
It's still a church and church is still boring.
"Church" is a term that is only associated with religion because it was "appropriated" by the Catholics... along with so many other things.
It doesn't matter where they meet or what they call themselves or what their goal or purpose happens to be... without a belief in a supernatural power, you don't have a religion.
If all it takes is a group of people who meet up and are really passionate about whatever to make a religion, then those dopes who cover themselves in greasepaint and get loud and drunk at football games are a religion.
So is the NRA a religion? They like to get together over a common interest and lobby others to see their point of view.
That's another thing, why would they adopt what is probably the worst aspect of Western religion.
Do they have a blood orgy after the service?
Q: Are you religious?
A: Yes, I'm extremely religious. I'm a devout atheist.
You think that would fly?
Because they're bored and silly I guess.
Joke about child molestation at your own peril you heathen.
I specifically said they lobby against other religions. The NRA has something tangible they want to retain... firearms. These fanatical atheists want to get people to stop believing in god... something that doesn't benefit them at all beyond making them feel better. And again we're dealing in something specific, a philosophical argument about the existence of god. If you want to change someone's opinion on that existence, it means you have a vested interest that cannot be based on science (because science cannot yet answer that question)... and for some reason you're offended if other people don't share your views. That sounds pretty close to a religion.
If these fanatical groups went after specific circumstances, like the WBC or other religious groups that persecute gays, or pastors that have molested children, it would be different. But I'm referring to those who go after the belief in god(s) as a whole, based on their own "faith" (which is what atheism is, since it can't be proven).
By the way Three Hole Puncher, the 4th definition of religion fits my example perfectly:
The NRA also lobbies for intangible things. Like the right to defend oneself from criminals and a tyrannical government.
Well see the definition I quoted:
I believe that fits atheists, especially fanatical ones. If you believe it applies to the NRA, then so be it. However, I think the "faith" aspect excludes the NRA... they believe passionately about a concept supported by facts... the existence of the 2nd Amendment, gun statistics, etc. Atheism is based on faith more than fact. Atheists can argue that god has never been proven to exist, but that's about it. They have faith in absence of affirming facts that their conclusion is the correct one.
So you have a cause, principle, or system of beliefs (disbelief in the existence of a god) held to with ardor (passion/enthusiasm/devotion) and faith (a conclusion in the absence of proof).
Douche chills for the entire article. Faggots might as well be playing with crystals and referring to themselves as "spiritual."