WHAT THE FUCK XM?

LilConor

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Mar 11, 2005
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#1
So I got this email yesterday.....

Isn't that why we pay for service? That's like the grocery charging me $3.99 for milk and then $2.00 towards the cow they milked. This is fucking bull shit.

Dear Valued Subscriber:

We appreciate your loyalty to SiriusXM and are dedicated to providing our subscribers with the best programming variety and listening experience available anywhere. As part of our efforts to keep you informed about your subscription, we are writing to you regarding a change to the "U.S. Music Royalty Fee" for subscription plans beginning February 1, 2013.

The "U.S. Music Royalty Fee," which is added to SiriusXM subscriptions that include music channels, will increase to 12.5% for eligible plans that are purchased or renewed on or after February 1, 2013. Subscribers to our popular Select package will see an increase of less than 2 cents per day. Please refer to the chart at the bottom of this email for the current and new fees on other packages affected by this change.

The "U.S. Music Royalty Fee" offsets a portion of the royalties payable by SiriusXM to composers, publishers, recording artists, musicians and record labels that hold copyrights in musical works and sound recordings. We may adjust the "U.S. Music Royalty Fee" from time to time to reflect changes in our royalty costs. The fee increase is due, in part, to the recent decision by the Copyright Royalty Board to increase the rates that SiriusXM must pay beginning January 1, 2013, as well as other factors associated with copyright royalties.

Understanding that any increase—even a small one—has an impact on our subscribers, we want to ensure you are aware of all your options to save on your subscription, including changing your billing plan to a longer term plan that offers one or more free months of service:

To change to a longer term billing plan and enjoy these savings, please log in to your SiriusXM Online Account at siriusxm.com/myaccount, or call 1-866-705-6222. Our Listener Care agents are available to serve you from 8am - 11pm, Mon. - Sat., or 8am - 8pm on Sundays.

Thank you for being a loyal SiriusXM listener. We hope that you will continue to enjoy the unparalleled entertainment value that only SiriusXM provides.

Best regards,
 

MetalBender

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#2
I didn't get the email. I hope this doesn't effect the lifetime subscription with free internet access I purchased 7-9 years ago.
 

d0uche_n0zzle

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#3
Call up and cancel. They'll give you a low ball price to offset the music fee.
 

Creasy Bear

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#5
Call your congressman instead of blaming XM.
Really... they're just passing it on down the line.

Yelling at XM for this is like yelling at the Habib who's filling your tank when gas prices go up.
 

LilConor

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#6
So have one price. I don't like when they give a rate and then start adding on shit. They want to say their rates didnt go up, or if they do they can say that it's not by much.
 

Don the Radio Guy

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#7
So have one price. I don't like when they give a rate and then start adding on shit. They want to say their rates didnt go up, or if they do they can say that it's not by much.
It's a tax. Their rates didn't go up. They can't just raise the price because they're not allowed to per the terms of the merger agreement.
 
Dec 8, 2004
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#10
This is why I went from 3 radios and one internet subscription to one radio and one internet subscription (my chick has unlimited data on her phone).

Oh when I changed the account they made me create a new username/password for the internet sub. But I guess they forgot to cancel the old one as it still works... tee hee.
 

Party Rooster

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#11
It's a tax. Their rates didn't go up. They can't just raise the price because they're not allowed to per the terms of the merger agreement.
I believe they can raise rates now. Wasn't that only for three years? And how is it a tax if all the money goes to the artists and labels? Does the money the copyright board collects go to fund African making rituals?
 

MayrMeninoCrash

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Dec 9, 2004
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#13
Welcome to 2008. This fee has been around for a while now. Call, threaten to cancel, go around a few times and they will lock you in for $60 a year.
 

MasterFlute

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Jan 9, 2013
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#14
Not a tax. A negotiated agreement of sorts between the licensing agencies (BMI, ASCAP, ETC) and the broadcasting industry. Licensing agencies, on behalf of recording artists such as myself, insist that we (I) get paid every time our music is played. Broadcasting and internet companies, of course, fought this for many years and it is only recently that I've begun receiving royalties for my cable, satellite and internet airplay.

I would ask that you blame no one - thousands of musicians - including myself - are entitled to be compensated for the work we do.
 

d0uche_n0zzle

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#15
Not a tax. A negotiated agreement of sorts between the licensing agencies (BMI, ASCAP, ETC) and the broadcasting industry. Licensing agencies, on behalf of recording artists such as myself, insist that we (I) get paid every time our music is played. Broadcasting and internet companies, of course, fought this for many years and it is only recently that I've begun receiving royalties for my cable, satellite and internet airplay.

I would ask that you blame no one - thousands of musicians - including myself - are entitled to be compensated for the work we do.

Yes, you are entitled to be compensated for your work.
 

Konstantin K

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Not a tax. A negotiated agreement of sorts between the licensing agencies (BMI, ASCAP, ETC) and the broadcasting industry. Licensing agencies, on behalf of recording artists such as myself, insist that we (I) get paid every time our music is played. Broadcasting and internet companies, of course, fought this for many years and it is only recently that I've begun receiving royalties for my cable, satellite and internet airplay.

I would ask that you blame no one - thousands of musicians - including myself - are entitled to be compensated for the work we do.
Are you one of the New Kids on the Block? Joey? Donny?
 

Creasy Bear

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#17
Not a tax. A negotiated agreement of sorts between the licensing agencies (BMI, ASCAP, ETC) and the broadcasting industry. Licensing agencies, on behalf of recording artists such as myself, insist that we (I) get paid every time our music is played. Broadcasting and internet companies, of course, fought this for many years and it is only recently that I've begun receiving royalties for my cable, satellite and internet airplay.

I would ask that you blame no one - thousands of musicians - including myself - are entitled to be compensated for the work we do.
We'll decide if you are worthy of compensation or castigation.

Please provide a sample of your work to us... so that we may heap scorn and derision upon you, and crush your musical spirit and your will to live.

Unless you're Zamfir, Master of the Pan Flute. In that case... you rock, and we are but lowly worms basking in the light of your greatness.
 

whiskeyguy

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#18
Not a tax. A negotiated agreement of sorts between the licensing agencies (BMI, ASCAP, ETC) and the broadcasting industry. Licensing agencies, on behalf of recording artists such as myself, insist that we (I) get paid every time our music is played. Broadcasting and internet companies, of course, fought this for many years and it is only recently that I've begun receiving royalties for my cable, satellite and internet airplay.

I would ask that you blame no one - thousands of musicians - including myself - are entitled to be compensated for the work we do.
Don't act like you aren't making a killing off those ads plastered all over the torrent sites.
 

TomC

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#19
I did some bitching a few months ago on a sat radio forum and s-xm help "team" contacted me, After getting their direct 800# and a white guys name to ask for, he offered me half price on my Sirius with BofXM before I said 5 words, then told me to call same # next year for same deal, and Then had my wife call and halve her XM sub. You just need to bitch on this forum, I see S-XMhelp on there every few days. http://www.digitalradiocentral.com/forum.php
 

whiskeyguy

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#20
Just calling and "canceling" will always get you a discount. Between free months and great 6-month deals, Sirius w/ Best of XM and internet has cost me $76.18 for the last year... that should run around $264. It would have been lower but I got lazy and just paid the regular monthly charge for a month or two.

You just have to be willing to cancel if they decide to stop giving you free service.
 

Don the Radio Guy

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#21
ASCAP and BMI are thugs. This time they got the government to twist arms for them.
 

TomC

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#22
Just calling and "canceling" will always get you a discount. Between free months and great 6-month deals, Sirius w/ Best of XM and internet has cost me $76.18 for the last year... that should run around $264. It would have been lower but I got lazy and just paid the regular monthly charge for a month or two.

You just have to be willing to cancel if they decide to stop giving you free service.
I'm a pussy and scared that I'll get someone who will just say ok, see ya. I live in a service van and cant deal with local radio after 8 years of sat.
 

whiskeyguy

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#23
I'm a pussy and scared that I'll get someone who will just say ok, see ya. I live in a service van and cant deal with local radio after 8 years of sat.
How long have you been paying for service? I'm sure that has something to do with it... I've been with them for at least 6 or 7 years (can't remember exactly how long). If they just say "see ya" (unlikely) then make due with something else for a month. Either they contact you with a great deal, or you bite the bullet and turn your service back on.
 

DrewDown

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#24
Just calling and "canceling" will always get you a discount. Between free months and great 6-month deals, Sirius w/ Best of XM and internet has cost me $76.18 for the last year... that should run around $264. It would have been lower but I got lazy and just paid the regular monthly charge for a month or two.

You just have to be willing to cancel if they decide to stop giving you free service.
I do this every year. I've almost always paid half price. They bring it up within seconds of me saying "cancel." It's a great deal at half price.