Why don't people like long movies?

mills

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"IN DIS DAY AN' AGE???"

I don't get it. You're not going into a theater, stupid. You're sitting there at home in front of your computer or television, in the same exact place you sat when you watched FIVE MOTHERFUCKING SEASONS OF THE WIRE IN ONE WEEK!!!!

And Lost.

And the Sopranos.

Who the FUCKING FUCK is still complaining about the length of movies anymore?

"Ew, well, I thought, personally, that it was overly long."

Didja.
 

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"IN DIS DAY AN' AGE???"

I don't get it. You're not going into a theater, stupid. You're sitting there at home in front of your computer or television, in the same exact place you sat when you watched FIVE MOTHERFUCKING SEASONS OF THE WIRE IN ONE WEEK!!!!

And Lost.

And the Sopranos.

Who the FUCKING FUCK is still complaining about the length of movies anymore?

"Ew, well, I thought, personally, that it was overly long."

Didja.
Forget movies, I'm pissed off that I sat through this entire post.
 

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It's not always a pure matter of time... it's often time in relation to goodness or suckitude.

Example...

-Saving Private Ryan was 170 minutes long and it seems like 10 minutes... I wouldn't call it a long movie... fucker was over in the blink of an eye and I wanted more.

One the other hand...

-That pile of dogshit The Hulk... the one with Nick Nolte... was 138 minutes long, and it was the longest movie I ever didn't sit through. That was a loooooooooong fucking movie.
 

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The problem isn't that the movie's long. It's that it's unnecessarily long. Some directors get it in their heads that length = importance, while others feel the need to bloat their movies with overly-long action sequences. In both cases, it comes from a sense that they need to make the audience feel like they got what they paid for. In reality, most of the best movies I've seen in recent years took exactly the amount of time it took to tell the story, and no more.
 

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It's not always a pure matter of time... it's often time in relation to goodness or suckitude.

Example...

-Saving Private Ryan was 170 minutes long and it seems like 10 minutes... I wouldn't call it a long movie... fucker was over in the blink of an eye and I wanted more.

One the other hand...

-That pile of dogshit The Hulk... the one with Nick Nolte... was 138 minutes long, and it was the longest movie I ever didn't sit through. That was a loooooooooong fucking movie.
The problem isn't that the movie's long. It's that it's unnecessarily long. Some directors get it in their heads that length = importance, while others feel the need to bloat their movies with overly-long action sequences. In both cases, it comes from a sense that they need to make the audience feel like they got what they paid for. In reality, most of the best movies I've seen in recent years took exactly the amount of time it took to tell the story, and no more.
Read the original post you god-fucking idiots.
 

mills

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The question doesn't concern the concept or the direction or the production of the movie. It concerns people, and the shitty habits that make them people.
 

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I don't get it. You're not going into a theater, stupid. You're sitting there at home in front of your computer or television, in the same exact place you sat when you watched FIVE MOTHERFUCKING SEASONS OF THE WIRE IN ONE WEEK!!!!
Movies are made to cash in on the first couple weeks of theater boxoffice, the rest is gravy. There's no comparison to a series marathon, movies are tailored to the theater experience. At least they still are for now.
 

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There's no comparison
Bingo.

That's why I didn't make one.

That's why I made a point of not making a comparison to it.

That's why I specifically illuminated the thing you'd make a comparison to if you were doing the opposite of what I was doing.

Shit. Shit shit shit. Fucking shit you're all dumber than heck.
 

mills

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There's nothing wrong with long movies is my only point.

Especially in 2011.

No one goes to theaters anymore, not really.

Criticizing a movie for being overlong is facetious. You heard some critic say it one time and you want to repeat it to make it sound like you're smart.

You're not smart, that thing you heard the critic say is now obsolete, and you're a phony douche.
 

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I know what mills is talking about. I've met plenty of people who just don't like long movies. They hear a movie is more than 90 minutes long and they get this look on their face like "you want me to pay attention for TWO HOURS STRAIGHT?! What am I, Superman?!"
 

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Last week I watched all 5 hrs of Fanny and Alexander, I watched all 15 1/2 hrs of Berlin Alexanderplatz, and I plan on watching all 9 1/2 hours of the Human condition this week. Length doesn't bother me.
 

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Last week I watched all 5 hrs of Fanny and Alexander, I watched all 15 1/2 hrs of Berlin Alexanderplatz, and I plan on watching all 9 1/2 hours of the Human condition this week. Length doesn't bother me.



What about girth?
 

mills

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I know what mills is talking about. I've met plenty of people who just don't like long things. They hear a thing is more than 90 minutes long and they get this look on their face like "you want me to pay attention for TWO HOURS STRAIGHT?! What am I, an O&A Radio Show listener?!"
Crazy, right? I guess that's why I come here.
 

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Read the original post you god-fucking idiots.
The question doesn't concern the concept or the direction or the production of the movie. It concerns people, and the shitty habits that make them people.
The reason why you don't like that answer is because you are asking a loaded question. You answered your own question: Why do people complain about long movies? It's because they're not smart enough to realize the movie was just the right length. It's their fault, not the movie's.

But that's not a good answer. So everyone's ignoring it, and trying to give a better answer. The fact is, most of the time, when people complain about length, they're right. The editor left in too much (probably because he was pressured to leave in too much by the director - or he is the director).

Don't get me wrong: people are wrong when complaining about art all the time. But Hollywood movies are barely art (sometimes they're not), and even when they are they often contain stuff that isn't in harmony with the filmmaker's sense of life and artistic vision. One of the reasons for that is that so many movies are not the result of a single great artist, but collaborative efforts in which some of the people aren't getting the point.

I think it's much more likely for a great novelist to produce a coherent work of art (that you just can't complain about, in any significant way), than it is for a filmmaker working with others. Unless he's Kubrick. Then he pulls it off almost every time.
 

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No Norm. You're still not addressing the original question/point. It's really simple, even though you've processed the hell out of it and still got it wrong.
 

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Movies, by themselves, you can have tens of thousands of criticisms about them. One of them is their running length.

People, going out, shaving and deodorizing their shitty armpits, make choices. It's those choices I'm talking about.

Notice that the SUBJECT in the title of this thread is 'people', and not 'movies'.
 

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I don't understand this thread. You ask a question, "Why don't people like long movies?", some folks try to answer why they don't like long movies, and you yell at them?

So anyhow, in an attempt to answer your question and I guess get yelled at, the reason people make the complaint is usually not the actual running time of the movie, it's the pacing of the movie.

I'll use the Star Wars Prequel trilogy as an example. The pacing of Episode I is terrible, because at 136 minutes, they don't really get anything accomplished, aside from introducing the characters to each other. So by the time they get to Episode III, the 140 minutes they have to tell the story isn't nearly enough time. Virtually same length in terms of minutes, but the pacing is so poor you have one movie that feels too long, one that feels too short.

I'll agree with you that there's a weird relationship between TV and Movies, where folks seem to want a great TV series to go on forever, but then complain about a movie that takes it's time getting somewhere, and complain even louder about sequels. But it's accepted that a standard TV series is a certain number of episodes, and more importantly, most TV shows don't have a specific end point that they're working towards. Lost was a notable exception, but it's not a good example in this case, because people did in fact complain that the series was too long. There's entire chunks of seasons that people have said never needed to be made. As a matter of fact, your other example also doesn't work, because people made the same complaint about the Sopranos.
 

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You still don't get it? I'm just "yelling at people who don't agree"?

OK, what if I renamed the thread "Why don't people like long movies in 2011 now that the length of movies doesn't matter since very few people watch them in theaters anymore?"

Would that be an acceptable thread title.

Or would it be better to just talk it out in the thread, like what usually happens.